[blind-chess] Chris good ideas, but not correct answer. Not a spoiler Re: Possible spoiler! Problem WAC002

  • From: "R Dinger" <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:42:47 -0700

Hi Chris,

This is a hard problem and the solution is complex.  Although I don't have much 
argument with your analysis, the answer given on the website is different.  I 
came up with the same answer as you, but I think the reasoning against that 
answer is something like the following.

If Black plays:
1... c3 forking the Rook and Pawn White plays,
2. bxc3 and Black has two choices:
2... Rxa3 or 2... Rxc3

If Black takes the A-Pawn, White advances the C-Pawn and now has a passed Pawn 
that Black must deal with as well as guard the A-Pawn.  So if Black tries to 
get under the C-Pawn, White swings the Rook over to a2 attacking the A-Pawn.  
And I don't think Black can defend both Pawns as well as take the C-Pawn.

On the other hand, if Black takes the C-Pawn, White swings the Rook over to a2 
protecting the A-Pawn.  Now if Black advances the D-Pawn to d2 the King moves 
to e2 and the Pawn is attacked twice.  Black now has to guard the Pawn while 
trying to maintain pressure on the White Pawn at a3.

Maybe someone else has a better analysis for this problem.  I will post the 
given answer Monday.

Richard
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris C. 
  To: blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:02 PM
  Subject: [blind-chess] Possible spoiler! Problem WAC002


  Okay, lets try this again, smiles.
  Now I have the board set up like it is suppose to be.

  I think the best move is:
  1. ... c3

  With this move, you are guaranteed at least one pawn to promote, and possibly 
more depending on whites respondence moves.

  If white respons with:
  2. bxc3  Rxc3
  3. Rd1 Rxa3
  Now you have two pawns open to possibily be promoted.

  Or 
  2. bxc3  Rxc3
  3. Ra2 Rd2

  Or white might:
  2. Rxd3  cxb2
  If white takes your rook,
  3. Rxb3  axb3, and you now have two pawns ready to promote.  The game is 
basically over for white.
  Or
  If white avoids the capture by,
  2. Rxd3  cxb2
  3. Rd1 or Rd4 ... Rxa2
  Or he might even put your king in check by:
  2. Rxd3  cxb2
  3. Rd6# .. Ke7

  No matter what you should be able to promote a pawn.
  Sorry if the above is confusing, I have never written moves before having to 
list out different possibilities.

  Chris






    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: R Dinger 
    To: chess 
    Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:27 AM
    Subject: [blind-chess] Problem WAC002


    Good Morning Puzzlers,

    This problem is from Mario Lang's puzzle web page at 
http://delysid.org:80/chess/epd.cgi

     and is reported to be from Fred Reinfield's book "Win At Chess" 1958.

    Problem WAC002
    
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    Black to move

    FEN Problem Setup:
    8/
    7p/
    5k2/
    5p2/
    p1p2P2/
    Pr1pPK2/
    1P1R3P/
    8
     b - - 0 1

    Short Algebraic Problem Setup:
    White: Kf3, Rd2, Pa3, Pb2, Pe3, Pf4, Ph2
    Black: Kf6, Rb3, Pa4, Pc4, Pd3, Pf5, Ph7



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