[bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.

  • From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:23:42 -0400

It's not a good idea to let K1K take care of the headings for you.  As
Monica mentioned, the problem is that there's no way to be certain what page
one is currently on in the sequence.  

Pratik


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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jill O'Connell
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.

It does take time I know but I simply go to the end of the header on the 
page and remove the words, stopping at the page number. If the number is at 
the end of the header, I start omitting at the last header word. I have 
simply found that there are too many inconsistencies in headers to rely on 
global search and as a braille reader I hate the garbled headers that 
result.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 7:03 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.


> Actually, I suppose it's about the same amount of work to reinsert the 
> page numbers as it is to take out the headers as you read along. Because 
> with K1000 at least, when I tried removing the headers on a book with page

> numbers at the top of the page, it took the page numbers along with the 
> headers. So it may be just a matter of preference whether you want to put 
> the page numbers back in by hand or take out the headers by hand. Though, 
> if the headers or footers are pretty consistent, you can use global search

> and replace under certain conditions if it is done carefully.
>
> Evan
>
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> From: "robert tweedy" <roberttweedy@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 6:05 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.
>
>
>>I am not sure about open book but in kurzweil it doesn't hurt.
>> Skype contact bobwichitaks phone 316-524-5454
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "maithe007" <maithe007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:11 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.
>>
>>
>>> Robert,
>>>
>>> I have a question about the headers.  I am afraid to use the 
>>> header/footer stripper in my Openbook...should I be doing this with all 
>>> my scans?  I am afraid I will distort the text.  Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Maithe
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "robert tweedy" <roberttweedy@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:56 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks Monica you explained it better than I did. I have seen a few 
>>>> books with the headers still in them and there have a lot of books with

>>>> errors in them but I am not on anyone's case or anything All of us that

>>>> includes scanners have to do a better job.
>>>> Skype contact bobwichitaks phone 316-524-5454
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 7:55 PM
>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Mickey. I think people are basically saying that since we're being
>>>>> paid more credit to validate, let's do a good job and not just pass
>>>>> stuff through the system. In the past, some people would validate a
>>>>> bunch of books to earn a year's membership. They didn't spend much 
>>>>> time
>>>>> in individual books because they knew they'd have had to validate 100
>>>>> books in a year to earn next year's membership. That has changed now. 
>>>>> I
>>>>> could be wrong, but I think people are just encouraging each other to
>>>>> raise the bar of what's acceptable validation. You have always been a
>>>>> careful validater, Mickey, so I don't see that this would change a lot
>>>>> for you. (smile) You taught me a lot about being a good validater. I
>>>>> used to be the kind of person who would just get a book and read it,
>>>>> ignoring small errors and only stopping if I literally couldn't read
>>>>> something. That has changed, and you, Sue, Katie, and Elizabeth are 
>>>>> all
>>>>> responsible for helping me make that change. It didn't happen 
>>>>> overnight
>>>>> or even over a period of weeks. It took me a good year or more to
>>>>> finally understand and then incorporate careful validation principles
>>>>> into how I do things. It's taken another year for me to refine the
>>>>> process, to use a system to do these things quickly and comfortably.
>>>>>
>>>>> Monica Willyard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> mickey wrote:
>>>>>> I think I'll do pretty much the same job I've always done, because I
>>>>>> think all of us are doing our best. I don't know that we should 
>>>>>> change
>>>>>> our criteria for accepting or rejecting a book. We validators work
>>>>>> hard to make the best product we can. Because we've changed our rate
>>>>>> of pay, I don't quite understand what that has to do with the
>>>>>> scanners. Maybe I'm missing something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mickey Prahin
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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