[bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits

  • From: Cindy Rosenthal <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:24:51 -0700 (PDT)

Bob, have you checked the wish list? There haewn't been too many new books 
added, but there have been some. Maybe you could request some from the library.

Cindy
WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE BOOKSHARE COLLECTION)IS AVAILABLE 
AT  
http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/wish_list/wish_list.htm
www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm

A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE AT 
http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm


--- On Sun, 3/22/09, Bud Schwab <budschwab@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Bud Schwab <budschwab@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 3:51 PM
> Hi Guys,
> 
> I think one of the reasons that the list of books for
> proofreading is 
> getting smaller is that bookshare has some 30 some thousand
> books 
> already.  I have a neighbor that brings us books from
> the library 
> here in Malibu and many times all of them that she brings
> are already 
> in bookshare.  Right now I have nine books to read but
> bookshare 
> already has all of them.  So from my small world here
> that is part of 
> the reason.  I'm always disappointed when all she
> brings are already 
> in bookshare but I just go ahead and read them fast without
> having to 
> pay attention to any errors.  I'm hoping this Friday
> she will bring 
> some that I can submit.
> Later.
> 
> Bud
> 
> At 03:07 PM 3/22/2009, you wrote:
> >Hi Evan and Lissi. I agree that it would be helpful to
> have some comments on
> >these issues from Pavi. Unfortunately, since Pavi
> doesn't spend much time
> >interacting with us, I'm not sure she can see the big
> picture and the
> >factors contributing to it. I think Carrie can because
> she reads the list,
> >understands our history, and sees the numbers of books
> involved directly.
> >Because Bookshare is growing so nicely, I would be very
> surprised if any
> >single factor is causing the lower levels of books
> available for
> >proofreading. By the same token, I'm sure there are
> some factors in play
> >that we on this list don't know about or understand
> fully.
> >
> >Lissi, I don't think we'll get to the point where there
> are no books to work
> >on because any volunteer could choose to upload a new
> book at any time.
> >That's why I think it would help to balance things if
> we can put our heads
> >together to encourage those volunteers who are able to
> start submitting more
> >books. I really value our team of proofreaders, and I'm
> committed to working
> >with everyone to find a solution. If we brainstorm,
> I'll bet we can come up
> >with some ideas to get people excited and engaged
> again.
> >
> >Monica Willyard
> >"The best way to predict the future is to create it."
> -- Peter Drucker
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of EVAN REESE
> >Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:13 AM
> >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the
> submits
> >
> >Hahaha! You are right, the issue is quality, not time
> taken. But I would
> >argue that there is a relationship between the two that
> is not necessarily
> >one to one, but significant nonetheless. It is not a
> book or two, but a
> >pattern involving a lot of books.
> >
> >What you are describing with the book you checked out
> is an isolated
> >incident; and you certainly did more than the
> Jiffyproofing being talked
> >about here. What I and others here are talking about is
> a pattern of
> >checking out books and checking them back in again
> without any apparent
> >attempt to even look at the text. They couldn't have
> done so in the time
> >they had.
> >
> >Now, if the quality of all those submits was truly
> stellar, then that would
> >be great, and no major correcting would have had to be
> done. But, unless
> >they were all children's books, which we know they were
> not, how would
> >anyone have been able to find out what the quality was
> in the kind of
> >timeframes we're talking about here?
> >
> >Still, having said all that, the question occurs to me:
> Could even several
> >Jiffy proofreaders, taking several books each day, be
> responsible for the
> >drastic decline in the number of books on the Check Out
> page? I suppose it
> >is possible, but it seems unlikely that that is the
> entire cause. But as
> >Lissi says, we just don't know enough to do anything
> other than speculate at
> >
> >this point.
> >
> >Evan
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:25 AM
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the
> submits
> >
> >
> > > Evan should only be allowed to send messages like
> that after the kids have
> >
> > > gone to bed. After all, we do have standards here
> <smile>.
> > >
> > > However, I still say that the problem is in the
> quality, not in the time
> > > it takes to proofread a book. And, that's what we
> should be reporting to
> > > bookshare.
> > >
> > > For example, yesterday I downloaded The Boss's
> Christmas Proposal by
> > > Allison Leigh. Don't ask me why because I don't
> know--except, perhaps I
> > > really wanted something to validate (I mean 
> proof read). But it's a
> > > harliquin romance, and I'm more in to Nero
> Wolfe.
> > >
> > > It started out with a 99.7 in Kurzweil, which is
> where most of the books I
> >
> > > proofread end up. But, there were a couple of
> interesting problems. For
> > > example, the author kind of liked the word tsk
> meaning "shame on you". She
> >
> > > used the word tsked (past tense of tsk) three
> times in her book, two of
> > > them were plainly correct, but one of them made
> no sense, and the only way
> >
> > > I could make it make sense was to change tsked to
> asked. I also took out
> > > the running titles at the tops of pages and
> protected chapter headings. I
> > > eventually got the message from Kurzweil that we
> love to hear, "your
> > > document did not have any errors in it, wow! what
> are the chances of
> > > that?" So, I sent the book back up and it's been
> accepted in the
> > > collection. I had the book for less than
> twenty-four hours. And I don't
> > > think I did a jiffy proofread.
> > >
> > > However, I must admit I didn't read the entire
> book, it isn't my cup of
> > > tea, at all. In fact, I did read the last
> chapter, and I found myself
> > > laughing too hard to proofread anything.
> > >
> > > Bob (who isn't criticizing anyone else's reading
> preferences)
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Julia" <julia.kulak@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:21 PM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the
> submits
> > >
> > >
> > >> Oh dear, that's a scary thought.
> > >> Julia
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:59 PM
> > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all
> the submits
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Well, if one person takes, say an average
> of twenty minutes per book,
> > >>> then they can turn over their five books
> in less than two hours.
> > >>>
> > >>> That's just one person. If several people
> are doing this, then that
> > >>> could add up to a lot of books per day
> that get taken and sent up to the
> >
> > >>> admin queue.
> > >>>
> > >>> And that, of course, assumes that this
> hypothetical person only does
> > >>> five books per day. If they wanted to,
> they could turn over quite a few
> > >>> more books than that.
> > >>>
> > >>> Evan
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 1:36 PM
> > >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are
> all the submits
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Since they can each only take five
> books, this still means very few
> > >>>> fiction books are on the check in
> books list Roger.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> At 01:11 PM 3/21/2009, you wrote:
> > >>>>>Nicholas Wilcox and Julie Barrett
> got them all.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>         
>    "Philosophers have merely interpreted the
> world in various
> >
> > >>>>> ways; the point is to change it."
> Karl Marx
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>table with 2 columns and 6 rows
> > >>>>>Subj:
> > >>>>>[bksvol-discuss] where are all the
> submits
> > >>>>>Date:
> > >>>>>3/21/2009 1:08:12 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time
> > >>>>>From:
> > >>>>>thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>>>Reply-to:
> > >>>>>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>>>To:
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> > >>>>>table end
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>There are so few books on 
> check in books page these days and so few
> > >>>>>of them are fiction. What is going
> on? So little for a proof reader
> > >>>>>to do, sigh!!
> > >>>>>
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