[bksvol-discuss] Re: validating questions

  • From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:55:51 -0500

You have offered good advice to the new validator, but I would like to
clarify two points. First, in American English quotation marks are
double and internal quotation marks are single, that is, written as
apostrophes. In British English it is exactly the opposite with
Quotation marks being single and internal quotes being double. That
means that it is a good idea to check where the book was published
before making the changes. The second clarification is that the
hyphens in hyphenated words should be deleted and the words joined if
the hyphens are the result of a word being broken at the end of lines
to preserve straight margins in the print copies. If the word is
actually a hyphenated word whether at the end of a line or not then
the hyphens should be left.

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Chanelle!
>    This is definitely the place for your questions. Welcome!
>    You are correct that sentences without periods are probably just
> things that the scanner didn't pick up and you can insert them.  You can
> remove the spaces before closing quotes to make them appear properly.
> Apostrophes are used for a quote within a quote.  So, I wouldn't change them
> if this is what is happening.  Occasionally quotation marks will scan as two
> apostrophes, no idea why on that.
>    Sorry, I'm out of order here.  Yes, you can remove the running
> headers and leave the page numbers.  This is a good idea, in fact.
>    It is probable that the pages 1 through 9 just didn't have their
> numbers scanned.  Very often, OCR dumps single numerals as garbage
> characters.  So, you are safe, in my opinion adding them in.  You can also
> insert any page numbers that are missing when you know that the pagination
> is correct.  This kind of thing is helpful.
>    As for your dates, it is possible that those may be stripped.
> Here's what you can and should do to protect them.  Insert the page number
> above the date.  Your page should appear like this:
> Page break
> Blank line
> Page number
> Blank line
> Date (or chapter heading as this is what these appear to be)
> Blank line
> Text on the page
> Blank line
> Next page break.
>    Yes, you should join hyphenated words and remove the extra dashes.
> You can remove the extra spaces, if you choose to, or you can let
> Bookshare's tools do that for you.  They can be counted upon to do that
> accurately.
>    If you don't have the e-mail address of a submitter and need to
> contact them, you can contact the volunteer coordinater, Pavi, at
> pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx and ask her to contact the submitter for you.  You can
> have her give that person your e-mail address if you want to do that.
>    If I've missed anything, please, just ask again.  I suspect you'll
> get lots of help here.  I'm thrilled that you've joined us!  Careful
> validators like you are very much appreciated by us and by Bookshare's
> patrons.  It's careful work like what you're doing that results in truly
> enjoyable, and accurate books to read.  I hope you have as much fun
> volunteering as I do!
> Mayrie
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chanelle Hill
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:58 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] validating questions
> Dear Bookshare Volunteer List,
> I am a new volunteer and recently downloaded two books to validate. I
> have decided to read the books cover to cover and want to fix some
> errors that appear to be made by the scanner. The volunteer manual
> states that adding to the text of a book is not permitted; however, in
> one of the books I am validating, there are several instances where
> the end of a sentence is not punctuated by a period even though the
> following sentence begins with a capital letter. Could this be a
> scanning error? In addition, there are often spaces between the end of
> a word and the close quotation mark so the end quote looks like an
> open quote. Is this a common scan error as well? In addition, some
> words have an apostrophe around them which should probably be
> quotation marks. Sometimes dashes are inserted at inappropriate places
> during a word and sometimes they are not printed when a word or name
> should be hyphenated. There are often too many spaces between words at
> certain points in a book. I am not sure if this is a scanning error or
> if the spaces are intended for formatting. I have read sections 2, 3,
> and 4 of the volunteer manual and the common scanning errors list and
> found no reference to the things I have encountered. I am using a
> combination of a BrailleNote classic and Microsoft Word on aWindows XP
> computer for my editing.
> The volunteer manual states that consistent running headers and
> footers will be removed. I am validating a daily meditation book that
> has the date for each day's reflection printed a line below the page
> break. Would the automated tool remove this information since the
> first word (the month) appears for 30-31 pages before switching to the
> next month?
> In the second book I am validating, the title of the book and the
> current chapter are printed in the header on alternating pages.
> Sometimes the text is a line below the page break and sometimes it is
> not. Would I remove these headers leaving the page numbers intact?
> Finally, I forgot to copy down the information on the books'
> information pages before downloading. I need to contact the book
> submitter to ask a question. Is there any way to access the book
> information page again? I am validating Hope for Today by Al-anon
> Family Group Headquarters and A Portrait of Jane Austen by David
> Cecil. In the Hope for Today book, page numbering begins at page 10,
> pages 11 and 12 are not numbered though pagination is intact, and the
> page numbering and pagination continues from there. The beginning
> pages of the book are paginated but not numbered. I am wondering if
> the pages in the book are numbered before page 10.
> I apologize for this long email full of questions. Any answers you can
> give would be greatly appreciated. If this list is not the place for
> questions of this nature, please direct me to the appropriate source.
> Thank you.
> Chanelle
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