[bksvol-discuss] Re: usinf search and Advanced Search

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:08:23 -0700 (PDT)

And when we're supposed to indicate the language of the book as UK if it is, so 
readers won't be confused by the different spellings and punctuation, though I 
did used to put in the comments section that it was British spelling and 
punctuation so people wouldn' the seeming errors were minnne

 
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> From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:21 AM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: usinf search and Advanced Search
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>If she has ever explained it I missed it. I did not even realize that 
>the default of the search engine was set up that way until this 
>discussion prompted me to examine the language combo box more carefully.
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>On 3/21/2012 11:45 AM, Kelly Pierce wrote:
>> Has Betsy, Bookshare’s Executive Director, ever explained why she
>> decided that the default search would be American English only rather
>> than to search all English-language titles.  If so, what was her
>> response? It would be fair to say that the expectation of a typical
>> user conducting a default search is a broad and wide search of all
>> English language titles.  It seems rather odd that Bookshare treats
>> British English like a foreign language when catalog searches at the
>> world’s largest libraries 100 times the size of Bookshare do not do
>> this.
>>
>> Kelly
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>> On 3/21/12, Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>> Here is an interesting characteristic of the advanced search. When I set
>>> it to British English and leave all other fields blank I get 135
>>> results. When I set it to American English and leave all other fields
>>> blank I get 136,114 results. When I set it to all languages and leave
>>> all other fields blank I get no results. I had thought that when I went
>>> to the advanced search form and just clicked the search command without
>>> filling out anything I was getting an exact number of the books in the
>>> entire collection. However, this discussion tells me that I should have
>>> examined all the fields before making that assumption. The default
>>> language is set to American English and so I was getting only an exact
>>> count of books in American English. As much as I would like to get that
>>> exact count of all books, however, I must admit that it is only to
>>> satisfy my curiosity and I have no real use for it. Searching more than
>>> one language at a time while excluding others can be useful though.
>>> Other than English the only language I have ever learned well enough to
>>> communicate in is Spanish and it has been so long since I made use of
>>> that skill I no longer have that ability. So I really have no need to
>>> search for anything but English. The problem is that British English and
>>> American English are treated by the search engine as separate languages
>>> and as far as I am concerned they are the same language because I can
>>> understand both quite well. Since the number of books in American
>>> English are of such a greater number I should search for anything I
>>> might be looking for there first, but I would not want to exclude
>>> British English from my search. It would be very good if I could search
>>> only both of those languages at once and exclude others. Even if
>>> searching all languages does not work if all other search fields are
>>> left blank I suppose it does if I search for something specific and I
>>> suppose I could just skip over results in foreign languages, but it
>>> would be very nice if I could search both British and American English
>>> at the same time while excluding the other languages.
>>>
>>> On 3/21/2012 3:58 AM, Cindy wrote:
>>>>    Experience has taught me, after now not finding another book that I knew
>>>> was in the collection, that it's necessary to change the Language to Any;
>>>> the default seems to be U.S., but that means if the language is British,
>>>> and the scanner or proofer puts, correctly, U.K. that your search for a
>>>> book won't get you to the book. So either bookshare instructions should be
>>>> changed to tell us to put U.S. for all books we scan or proof, or people
>>>> looking for books should change the language, when looking for a tile, to
>>>> Any
>>>>
>>>>
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