[bksvol-discuss] Re: .txt and .rtf
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:19:30 -0800 (PST)
Well, if people don't want to validate, they can
always scan and just make sure all the page numbers
are present and do a word search to at least eliminate
most of the mis-spellings and the garbage. I feel a
lot better about not scanning and just validating
knowing that there are so many around who like to
scan. I read the books as I go along, and so it's no
problem for me to put in page breaks -- and also
sometimes I find missing pages which I can then scan
in, since I use the books themselves. When I was
scanning, I pre-validated and found some pages I'd
missed, as well as some I'd done twice. I guess I lost
my concentration, and I don't get to hear what I'm
doing.
But Marissa says not to worry about submitting txt
books. Still if you can convert your txt files to rtf
before submission, that would be preferable because
then they'd retain italics as well as page breaks.
How did you know that the books you validated were
kicked back? Were they somehow kicked back to you as
validator and not to the submitter? I haven't had
anything returned to me as validator even though I've
approved some txt files that had the page numbers
separated from the text by line spaces but Word put in
page breaks elsewhere.
If you let me know when you submit the Doig books I'll
validate them if no one else has gotten to them first.
Unless . . . I can't remember if you're one who
doesn't mind sending me a book file or one who is
uncomfortable dong that. If you don't mind, I can
pre-validate it as an rtf file and send it back to you
to submit.
Cindy
--- Louise <lougou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Cindy, regarding the Ivan Doig books, one of the
> books I've scanned is
> Dancing at the Rascal Fair, but I haven't yet
> scanned the other one in the
> trilogy, which, I believe is called Ride with Me
> Mariah or something to that
> effect.
>
> I am still confused about this page break business
> and am now even reluctant
> to validate other people's scans as about half the
> books I validated
> recently were kicked back to be checked for page
> breaks! I am becoming
> frustrated and discouraged about this page break
> business and I know of a
> few friends who are also Bookshare members who say
> they won't validate any
> more books either because of this page break
> situation.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:34 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: .txt and .rtf
>
>
> > Louise,
> >
> > I may be wrong, but I don't think you have to
> worry.
> > I've validated txt files and rtf files. The first
> time
> > I got dowloaded a txt file I converted it to an
> rtf
> > file. I can't remember if the page breaks
> converted or
> > if I put them in manually as I did the book, but
> they
> > disappeared when I found I had to covert to txt to
> > upload. After that, when I did txt files, I just
> > spaced to show the page number, i.e., I made a
> single
> > line space before the page number and a double
> line
> > space after the page number if the page number was
> > supposed to be at the bottom of the page and ice
> versa
> > if it was at the top (ifI remember correctly). The
> > only problem is that sometimes Word put in a page
> > break where there shouldn't be one, but I didn't
> worry
> > about that. I think, though, that I solved that
> > problem but switching to a smaller font when I was
> > ready to upload.
> >
> > If you can convert to rtf to submit your books,
> then
> > let the validator worry about page breaks if they
> > don't appear in the conversion. Or submit them as
> txt
> > if you can't convert to rtf and let the validator
> > worry about them. The worst thing that would
> happen is
> > that they'd be rejected, but of course you'd still
> > have yours. And the best thing is that they'll be
> > accepted and the collection and membership will be
> > enriched by your efforts. BTW, is any of them the
> > other two books of the Montana series by Ivan
> Doig? Am
> > I correct in remembering that you're the one who
> read
> > the book with Mariah Montana in the title and
> wanted
> > the other two?
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> > --- Louise <lougou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > I have more than a thousand books that I've
> > > scanned in txt format, but
> > > won't be able to submit to Bookshare since txt
> files
> > > don't have page breaks.
> > > I can't see myself going page by page through
> all of
> > > these books and
> > > manually putting in page breaks!! It's my
> > > understanding that by going to
> > > save as in a txt file and then choosing the rtf
> > > format doesn't
> > > automatically put in the page breaks.
> Therefore, I
> > > don't know of any quick
> > > way of putting the page breaks in txt files.
> > > Besides, I don't see why page breaks are so
> > > important in books such as
> > > romances, mysteries, westerns, etc. I can see
> their
> > > validity in nonfiction
> > > books such as textbook or reference books!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Marissa Mika" <Marissa.M@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:37 AM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: .txt and .rtf
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Pam,
> > > >
> > > > The answer is yes if you can maintain the page
> > > breaks during your
> > > > conversion.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Marissa
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Pam Quinn
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:32 AM
> > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] .txt and .rtf
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have some books to submit eventually when I
> get
> > > them cleaned up,
> > > > that are in .txt format. Would it be
> preferable to
> > > convert them to
> > > > .rtf before submitting them?
> > > >
> > > > Pam
> > > >
> > > >
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