[bksvol-discuss] Re: the story of a proofer

  • From: "Chela Robles" <cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:27:44 -0800

Oh yeah how I could I forget them, got everyone in a shouting state, including me! 

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: the story of a proofer
At a certain time in the past year there were two jiffy proofers who would check out a book and upload it within five minutes. I think a couple of times they managed to do it within two minutes. They had the checkout list reduced to less than a hundred books and almost everyone of them was a hold. That left conscientious proofers who did not have any holds for them bereft of anything to do and the books were being passed on unproofed. Finally, Carrie started noting the time that had passed between download and upload and bouncing back any book that had not been held long enough to have been proofread. That seems to have solved the problem. I suppose it is still possible to download a book and let it sit a few days before uploading it without even looking at it, but we know the names of the offenders. If one of your books are checked out by Nicholas Wilcox or Julie Barrett notify Carrie that you do not want your book proofed by one of those irresponsible jiffy proofers. "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony 

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: the story of a proofer
Hi, Tracy, I take your point, but I have talked to some submitters who have 
experienced the depredations of "jiffy proofreaders". Now maybe you are
meticulous and you read every word of a book you proofread and you're very careful because you might write the submitter informing what you've done and 
asking questions if you're stuck. I don't know how long you've been a
proofreader, but if you are meticulous, I don't see why you should be
offended. I'm thinking this is not and neither should this be an adversarial 
relationship between submitters and proofreaders. We want scans with
readable texts which aren't garbled. I think what we want is the same thing, 
i.e., excellent quality books in the Bookshare collection. Regards, Kim
Friedman.

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 5:17 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: the story of a proofer
I take offense at this notion that only certain select people are "reliable" 
proofers.  I never get "hold fors", which is fine by me.  It doesn't mean
I'm just some careless jiffy-proofer.  I understand submitters don't want
the careless proofers, but I think there are a lot more reliable folks out 
there than some people seem to think.  It just smells to me like in-crowd
foolishness.
Tracy


People can only have five books in their queue at any given time. So,
if someone didn't have room, the book might conceivably sit for longer
than two weeks. Right now, that isn't a problem. The people I work
with take books of mine in a timely fashion. However, once the new
policy is implemented, books might be taken by unreliable proofers. If
this is the case, I will be reluctant to submit as often as I
currently do.
Yes. You have proofread for me, and I'm very grateful for the work you do.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn I" <lynnskyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:56 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: the story of a proofer


Hi Shannon!

I really understand what you're saying about having a good
relationship with a proofreader and how important that is. I've
proofread your books--at least two or three of them, and I think we've
worked well together.

However, I'm not understanding comments on this thread that express a
concern about the "holds" being for two weeks effecting the number of
books you or others would be able to submit. The change in the "holds"
just means you'd have two weeks to download the book from the time it
was placed on the check out list. It doesn't mean that you couldn't
renew it--I renew a book all the time.

Could you please clarify how this would be a negative?

Blessings.

Lynnsky

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