Cindy, I finally got the norton re-submitted, and have it in my validation folder. I'll start on it again this evening, and let you know the exact quote at the bottom of p9, and the top of p12, so you can match the pages I need. Gawd, that took a bit, but that's how you learn, I guess. Never mind the daniell Stele for a bit. "Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most." Ernie