I don't know what kind of stats BS can pull from the stripper but if they can an average minimum quality could be set. This could be evaluated over time as the technology improves. It would not be based on some random number then but based on what is coming through. Then those who continue to take the extra time to improve the quality of work would be raising the bar over time. I do have to say working with computers all the time many times the improvements in the system does depend on personnel and money available to make the changes. Kaitlyn Healing Practitioner "The cost of a thing is the amount of what I call life, which is required to be exchanged for it immediately or in the long run." Henry Thoreau -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:34 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: reward for upgrading software Why is it that whenever someone takes the trouble to try to find out ways of improving the content of an entity such as BookShare we have this constant excuse-making justifying lower quality? I don't understand it, and they're always the same rationales. Look, frankly, if people want to do better, they Will find the ways. The only way We have to ensure that they have a reason to make such an efort is to drop inferior work. If we don't do this, I, for one will be doing rescans and never get to what I want to read for myself. I assure you that that will not happen. That means, if I am at all typical, that unless we change, BS will be saddled with ever more amounts of crap, with a few wonderful people, of which I'm not one, chasing their tales redoing books in an ever-higher pile and BookShare paying out some fraction of money, which they probably do not have, to have these books improved. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Van Oosterwijck <mailto:curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:30 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: reward for upgrading software Actually I got a month's free trial of bookshare when I upgraded Kurzweil a couple versions ago. The cost of upgrading, although very reasonable, is far far higher than the cost of bookshare membership, so I can't imagine a person being convinced by a free month unless they were already convinced to upgrade. I also think keeping up to date with your chosen scanning software is a really good idea, but don't think it would necessarily and automatically fix bad scans. Using the updated software takes time as well as money and some people either don't have it or aren't willing to spend it. Do you think you could also get people to buy better scanners and to upgrade their computers that are too slow to run the new software? While we're at it, can anyone think of a scheme to get people to hire me to teach them how to get good scans? LOL Don't worry, although I don't think new software fixes everything, I would encourage anyone asking for better results to do so, if for no other reason than that it is much easier to convince oneself to learn something new than to go back and pretend to start fresh with the learning process on something out of date. I also would say that often time is more valuable than money so if you have the money save yourself and others the extra time and work with the best software and hardware you can afford. Sarah Van Oosterwijck Assistive Technology Trainer http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.