Hi Rui, This isn't hate mail but I imagine that remark made others besides me laugh. What about this?? David Talmage has had one validation that has been bouncing for two months. If you were a Bookshare engineer what would you do about that? <lol> I can ask because I haven't agreed or disagreed in this particular discussion. Sue Stevens All hate mail will bounce. <lol> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rui Cabral" <rui@xxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:54 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: returned to step one page Hi Everyone: I am about to disagree with all of you. If I was a bookshare engineer, I would design the system to bounce back the original submissions not the edited ones on the step 1 page. I basically take the "all or nothing approach." if i validate a book, and i screw up (yes it has happened) it should go back to square 1 to someone else. Now if i see that it bounced back, I can upload my saved copy and make the changes that have been requested. So I like the current procedure. Rui's bookshare golden rule: Always keep a saved copy until a book is in the collection -- Rui(hate mail can be sent to rui@xxxxxxxx Bookshare.org Unofficial Volunteer Scanning Page http://members.cox.net/booksharescans ----- Original Message ----- From: Julie Morales To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:30 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: returned to step one page Hi, Marissa. I know this is beyond your control, but would it not be possible, when a book has to be bounced back, to at least keep the validated version intact so all the editing that did take place isn't lost? This has never happened to me, but I know it has to be frustrating for those to whom it does happen. Take care. Julie Morales Email and Windows/MSN Messenger: inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He wants to put a rainbow in your heart. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marissa Mika To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:42 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: returned to step one page Hi Tiffany, You are correct. When the books are bounced back to the validation cue, it is the original copy of the file. I don't particularly like this policy, but it's essentially beyond my control to change it at present. So you don't lose your validation work or credit, I suggest keeping a saved copy of the books you validate on your hard-drive until you get the official approval notice. I know it would be ideal if a note could be sent out when a book bounces back to the approval cue. I'll talk to the engineers and see what we can do. Best, Marissa -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tiffany H. Jessen Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:26 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] returned to step one page Hello. On the step one page tonight, I found a few books which have already been validated and approved, but they say they were bounced back to the step one page for different reasons, checking page breaks, copyright information, etc. My question is, when it's bounced back to the step one page, is that copy the original file again, or the already validated once cleaned-up copy? I would really hope it to be the second, but they're appearing back in their original formats, so I'm left to assume the second. Tiffany