Hi Lissi, Thank-you for your insightful comments. We have all put forth some thoughts and ideas so let's see where they go over the next few months. Bottom line is I am here to find some good books I am interested in and I scan books I have a real interest in. I only hope some of my interests will flow over to others. Katie Hill No one is given a dream without also being given the power to make it come true -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Estelnalissi Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 3:56 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] rejecting when no page breaks, overall frustration Dear Mickey re rejecting books without page breaks, and Everyone re Volunteer Frustration, Mickey, don't worry about pleasing everyone since it will never happen. Like Cindy, I sometimes enjoy rescuing books without page breaks if I can find a print copy or if there are reliable page number cues. In my case, since I enjoy reading a book as I validate, I don't mind the extra effort of adding page breaks. If you put the book back on the step one page with the comment that it lack page breaks, then validators have been prewarned and can select it or not. Whether you release or reject, you're contributing and you don't have to please everyone. We're a bright, free thinking bunch, and, in a healthy way, we're guaranteed never to be unanimous about anything! And this is just my opinion, but your hard work, and the contributions of the other volunteers is worth far more attention than Book-share glitches which we can all manage to sidestep or get over. I have 2 books waiting for admin approval, and I think of them as being in boxes with other new books just waiting to be shelved. Waiting is frustrating, I know, but looking at it another way, I'm delighted that we are keeping ahead of the staff, uploading faster than they can approve. That's so much better than Bookshare staff going begging for volunteers and sitting on their hands because only a trickle of books are being scanned and validated by volunteers. We volunteers have set the bar very high. The staff will need plenty of encouragement from us to go over it. As a former teacher and administrator I know the value of volunteer assistance. On the other hand, I know that disgruntled volunteers who personally criticize staff and the organization are counter productive, hurting more than helping. Making suggestions is a good thing, but we're not a governing board. It isn't our responsibility to critique the staff or to know every detail about how they invest their time. To maintain its credibility Bookshare has to answer to many individuals from consumers to congress, from authors to publishing companies. They don't have to answer to us, justify all of their actions and decisions to us, and inform us of in house, day to day facts, figures and activities. We're volunteers. We're their support system. As volunteers, we have the option of giving our services elsewhere if we find Bookshare policy too distressing. For my part, I see flaws in every business, institution and nonprofit. It's the human way. Given that, Bookshare has made incredible progress despite low funding and understaffing. The staff has my greatest admiration for having the dedication and ingenuity to do so much with so little. Well, grin, they have had the benefit of help from hundreds of dedicated enthusiastic and talented volunteers, too, haven't they. I'm one of the least productive of you having uploaded only 15 books, 4 of which haven't been approved, yet. What I lack in quantity, I make up for in the pleasure of being one of you and supporting an organization which made my personal reading dreams come true. Always with love, Lissi ----- Original Message ----- From: "mickey" <micka@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:58 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Just rejected >I get very confused. When I've released books because they didn't have page >breaks, I was told I should have rejected them. When I reject, I'm told I >should have kept. We need guidelines, because either way I go, someone >figures I should have done it differently. All I want to do is do a good >job. Maybe we can get Gustavo to put it back, since I told him what the >reason was. > > Mickey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:49 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Just rejected > > >> Aah, Mickey. If you'd released it, I could have taken >> it it. The book, at least in a couple of forms, is >> available in my library systems, and it looks like one >> I'd enjoy reading--and it's relatively short. smile. >> >> Cindy >> >> --- mickey <micka@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Hi. I had to reject Rutland Place by Anne Perry. >>> There were no detectable >>> page breaks. >>> >>> Good scan, too. >>> >>> Mickey >>> >>> Mickey Prahin >>> Phone: (614) 670-4011 >>> Check out Bob's new CD at >>> http://www.boballentrio.com >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject >>> line. To get a list of available commands, put the >>> word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >>> >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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