Thank you Pratik. We should all remember that BookShare is working for paying customers. The idea that "we are scanning for our enjoyment and submitting to Bookshare is just a bonus" is essentially flawed. G. Guido Dante Corona IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. IBM Research, Phone: (512) 838-9735 Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.ibm.com/able "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 12/11/2004 05:32 PM Please respond to bksvol-discuss To <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject [bksvol-discuss] Re: reading in mp3Re: Re: question: Re: page breaks For all its contraversy, I agree with Guido. With our new submissions, Bookshare should not accept books that does not meet certain standards. I would imagine that More than 20 percent of the current validation list consists of TXT romances that are submitted by one person and are absolutely horid (in terms of quality). Yet I find that they are validated without too much upgrade--please don't get me wrong, I am not blaming the people who validate these books for doing so without upgrading. They have so much editting to do that it's absolutely impossible. In many instances, I would rate them even below fair. I think volunteers should feel free by Bookshare rules to reject such books. The submitter/s must learn that these books are not acceptable. Pratik Pratik Patel Interim Director Office of Special Services Queens College Director CUNY Assistive Technology Services The City University of New York ppatel@xxxxxx From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Guido Corona Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 2:13 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: reading in mp3Re: Re: question: Re: page breaks I would be rather sad if there were any misunderstanding about the interpretation of my words. This is not a matter of being 'nice' to some or of cruelty to some others, human rights, humane rights, rights of the individual, plight of starving children, the downtrodden, the lexicographically starved, children of lesser gods, second class citizenry, the oppressed masses of the world blind, and all the rest of the worthy likes. This is only a pedestrian publishing standards issue of a private corporation, which is neither an association, nor it is a club, and has both the right and the duty of ruling on the matter. In its youth Bookshare has been rightly rather loose in its posting/publishing standards, now we have nearly 20K titles in the eStacks and it is time to tighten those standards up a notch. I am looking forward to some clearly delignated standards from Benatech staff to which we volunteers can and will delightedly conform. Regards, Guido Dante Corona IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. IBM Research, Phone: (512) 838-9735 Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.ibm.com/able "Gisela Vazquez" <gvazquez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 12/10/2004 05:54 PM Please respond to bksvol-discuss To <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject [bksvol-discuss] reading in mp3Re: Re: question: Re: page breaks Mary, I am talking about MP3 reading, not txt reading in BC. it just doesn't seem right that the community should be deprived of good books simply because of the pagination. I agree with those who say there should be a note. It isn't fair to the rest of us. If you read in MP3 shouldn't you be able to book mark them, Guido? If not, don't read them. I know that sounds cruel but it's crueler to deprive the rest of us simply because a few can't find a way around the problem.