[bksvol-discuss] Re: questions about pictures and admin approval

  • From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:30:45 -0700

Denise, I hope that those who respond to your questions do respond to the whole 
list as this is an important issue.

When I scan books, I can sometimes tell if a picture is present because 
pictures occasionally scan with weird characters.  I use Openbook 7.2, but have 
never scanned in Word.  If I have a question about a picture being present, I 
check my page with my very old optacon, but that option is not available to all 
blind submitters or proofreaders.

If a book is going to be rejected because pictures have remained in the text, 
then certainly we as blind scanners or even proofreaders need to know how to 
recognize pictures.

I hope Carrie will respond to your inquiry and will explain why the presence of 
pictures is a reason for rejection.

Lori C.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Denise Thompson 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 7:37 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] questions about pictures and admin approval

  Hi All

  I just had a book rejected because it had pictures. I didn't know they were 
there of course, but according to the message I recieved, in web view they show 
up. I did delete some as I wentalong when it was at the top of the page or the 
bottom and I encountered them as I was working on headers or page numbers. I 
knew some objects were in the book because when I opened it each time to scan 
more pages, it would open in Word and say that the document has such and such 
number of objects. I have some questions related to all of this that perhaps 
some of you can help with.

  I know that the last two books I've scanned and submitted were the same. They 
also had "objects" in them. Both of those books were approved. So that makes me 
wonder if the other proofers deleted the pictures or whatever the objects were 
before submitting for admin approval or were they just passed. Anyway that 
leads me to my next thought and that is why this proofer didn't delete them or 
maybe the proofer is totally blind like me and didn't know they were there. So 
is there any way for those of us who can't see where the pictures are (unless 
our cursor happens to fall on one) able to find the objects and get rid of them?

  Also, if there are pictures there, why can't the book be saved and a daisy 
with pictures and them the pictures deleted and saved as a daisy without 
pictures. If books with the pictures are saved then a copy is made without 
pictures, isn't there someway the pictures are stripped in which case can that  
be done with the books that those of us submit who don't know the pictures are 
there. The suggestion by the bookshare team was for me to rescan the book with 
no pictures checked and resubmit. I looked through Open Book and don't see 
anywhere that I can check not to have pictures scan. I'm curious also because I 
thought when you saved a book as a text or RTF file most attributes were lost. 
why does it retain the pictures?

  As you can see, I'm full of questions. If this is too much and you want to 
contact me off list, that's fine.



  At 10:11 AM 10/6/2009, you wrote:

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