Which verses are supposed to be indented? In the Prelude, every line is indented the same number of spaces, two. The Braille translator removes extra spaces, or so I've been told, and I believe it. It also seems to remove all blank lines.
Either this Braille translator is extremely primitive, or it isn't getting files with attributes such as bold and italics and blank lines. I have never seen a blank line in any brf file I have downloaded. Even Megadots from ten years ago could take a doc file from MS Word and show italics and blank lines in the brf version. I used to work with it quite a bit. Why this one can't do the same with rtf files is something curious. Maybe it isn't getting the rtf file, but something stripped of all atributes. But if so, why does the Daisy version get a better file of the book to work with? Questions and more questions.
<smile> Evan----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:53 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: question re underlined words
Ah, well. Are the indented verses indented? It's too bad, because although most of the time it probably doesn't make a difference, in some books it does, to indicate thoughts as opposed to what's being spoken. Also, in sentences, it indicates stress or emphasis on a particular word, although that sometimes can be "heard" in the reading. Sometimes when I'm validating, in reading a line the fact that a word feels as if it should be stressed causes me to look at the book, and sure enough, it is italicized. Cindy --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Cindy, I have downloaded the brf version of Rudyard Kipling Complete Verse and have read the Prelude. As I suspected, there is no sign of italics anywhere. Evan----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:05 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: question re underlined words > Thanks Gerald and Evan. > > Evan, it's possible that neither the scanner nor the > validator put the thoughts or any sections in ital. > I'm assuming Eragon was uploaded in rtf; I seem to > remember it was a recent submission and not txt, which > doesn't retain anything. But unless one scanned or is > validating with something that indicates ital or bold, > he/she won't change it. Things don't seem to scan iin > ital, just makes it junky. smile > > Try downloading Rudyard Kipling Complete Verse. The > Prelude, p. 3, is italicized, as well as parts of > other poems. > > Or you might try Out of Body or Elect Mr. Robinson (p. > 129 and some others have italicized words) or Cloud > Atlas (italics scattered throughout); I'm not sure > what category Out of Body falls into--sort of Sci fi, > but certainly one of the chapters in Cloud Atlas does, > and I think Mr. Robinson--well, I don't know. But they > all have some italics in places--too scattered for me > to give you page numbers. Let me know what you find > out, i.e., if the italia=cs in these more recent books > sow p in braille. > > Cindy > > > Cindy > --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> It won't come out in Braille, though, I will bet. I >> have a few thousand >> pages of Bookshare Braille files by now from the old >> translator and from >> when it was upgraded and I haven't seen an italics >> or underline symbol - >> dots 4-6 anywhere. The only indication I ever got >> that something was >> italicized was when the old Braille translator used >> to take a new line for >> italicized text such as titles of books in the text, >> as when the book Dune >> is refered to in the book The Road to Dune by Brian >> Herbert and Kevin J. >> Anderson, or ship names, such as in Terry Brooks' >> Straken, where the names >> of the ships were always on separate lines as well >> as when people's thoughts >> were italicized. I have seen no such indicators of >> italics or underlining >> in any of the books done after the translator was >> upgraded. I am currently >> reading Eragon and am up to page 60. There are >> passages where the >> protagonist is thinking, and I would bet that those >> passages are in italics >> or are otherwise indicated by a change in font, or >> something, but no such >> indications are in the brf file. The same with >> Robert Jordans' Knife of >> Dreams. It seems unlikely that that 785-page book >> had no italics in it, but >> the brf file had none at all. >> >> So now you have a better idea of some of the stuff I >> like to read. <grin> >> >> Evan >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gerald Hovas" <GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxx>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:17 PM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: question re underlined >> words >> >> >> > Not sure, but my guess is that it will since HTML >> supports underlining, >> > and >> > DAISY uses a markup language similar to HTML. Try >> it and see, then we'll >> > know. >> > >> > Gerald >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Grandma Cindy >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:51 PM >> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] question re underlined >> words >> > >> > I'm helping Sharon with a nonfiction book and some >> of >> > the handwritten words are underlined. She wants >> all >> > the emphases, etc., retained because they are >> > important. If I underline the words, do they >> remained >> > underlined when the book is converted to Daisy and >> > BRF, or should I explain that the are underlined? >> I >> > don't think I've come across this before--just >> bold >> > and ital. >> > >> > Cindy >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >____________________________________________________________________________>> > ________ >> > Finding fabulous fares is fun. >> > Let Yahoo! 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