From: Martha Rafter <mlhr@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofreading questions
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, July 27, 2012, 10:10 AM
Hi John,
I'm not really sure about the term penultimate, but
following this thread reminds me of something I came across
a while ago. While proofing I kept coming across
something that was not American English in a book that was
written in American english. To me with my JAWS, the
word sounded as if there was a question mark after it.
Anyway, this is what I did:
As I came across each of these characters, I copied
them, then opened 'find and replace,' pasted the character
in the find box and put what I knew it was supposed to be in
the replace. I then did a 'replace all.' I did
this in my initial read-through each time I found one.
I sure hope that this makes sense. If it doesn't, ask
again and I will try again.
Marty
-----Original Message----- From: Cindy
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:18 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofreading questions
I wonder if it's necessary to re-place that apostrophe that
is over the penultimate letter rather than after it, where
it belongs. That is something someone who listens or uses
Braille to rad will have to say; to a sighted person it's
very clear what it is.
Cindy
--- On Thu, 7/26/12, Judy s. <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
From: Judy s. <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofreading questions
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, July 26, 2012, 6:03 PM
Hi John,
I can answer the bit about
books.google.com. It's unlikely that you
would want to change your page breaks in
the scanned version .rtf
to match the Google copy. Your
edition is probably a totally
different edition than the one that is on
google books. I run into
this all the time. Books can have 20 or 30
different editions, or
even more, and the pagination will be
different on each edition.
The missing dash problem could have from a
whole bunch of causes. I
don't have a fix for you as a proofreader
to handle that easily,
unless there is a specific consistent
pattern you can use to do a
'search and replace' for the missing em
dashes. One idea from the
pattern you are seeing is to just do
a search for space space and
then replace each of these that appear to
be a missing em dash with
a hyphen hypen, Someone else here may have
a better idea, though.
I'm also a sighted volunteer with
limitations that don't allow me to
manipulate a print book. There are a few
of us in that boat that are
volunteers here. I use google book
and amazon peek both when
available, and when I can't get an answer
I need there or from the
person who scanned the book I ask on the
list if someone can find
the book and scan the page and send it to
me.
Hope that helps,
Judy s.
On 7/26/2012 7:06 PM, John Simpson
wrote:
I have several questions
about the book that I am
currently proofing.
First
off, words that are followed by an "'s" have the
apostrsphe
over
the penultimate letter (e.g. Martin̓s). While this is
not a
showstopper,
it does
require a fair amount of corrections. I guess my
question is what
causes
this kind of construction? Is it a function of the
scan
volunteer, the
scanner
hardware, or the OCR software?
Secondly, I have gone to
books.google.com to take
a look
at this book.
My
question here is whether Google has a fair
representation of the book. I
know
that all but one page are present, but within the
first
several chapters,
the
page breaks in the scanned version .rtf are not in the
same
place as they
are in
Google's copy. I certainly don't want to have to go
through
the entire
book
changing pagination based on Google. I do have a hold
at my
local library
for the
print copy that will help answer this question.
Any
other advice would
be
greatly appreciated.
The third question is that
in the scanned version
that I
have from
BookShare there are frequent instances of
two spaces,
rather
than one. The
sense
of the book is that there should be a comma where
the
first space is.
However, when looking at the Google
version, this
separator is an m dash
surrounded by spaces. All of these
dashes have been
removed. Again, my
question is whether this is a function of
the scan
volunteer the scanner
hardware or the OCR software. Again, I do
not wish to go
through
the entire
print
book looking for dashes that I need to replace, or
even to
do a find on
two
spaces and see if the meeting indicates a dash.
I am a sighted volunteer
with physical limitations
that do
not allow me
to
manipulate a print book. While I don't mind getting
occasional assistance to
go to a
specific page to verify my proofreading, I'm not
able to
scan a print
book
and compare my scan to the BookShare .rtf version.
If the
Google
representation is accurate relative to the
print book, I
will be
happy to use that
as a
resource wherever possible.
Thanks for any and all
suggestions.
John Simpson
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