[bksvol-discuss] Re: paragraph spacing
- From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:01:20 -0600
I don't think it is possible to double space between paragraphs with paragraph
formatting in Word, but it doesn't matter since bookshare takes care of
paragraph formatting. If you ever want to do this for another reason, though,
you can just replace a single paragraph symbol with a double paragraph symbol
with the Find and Replace feature of Word, or whatever software you use. That
is very quick and easy.
Again, you can format paragraphs however you want to, but that doesn't mean
that they will appear that way in the final bookshare copies. Everyone has to
remember that the RTF file you submit is not what gets in to the collection, it
is processed and converted in to something else. That means that people with
print disabilities that read the book from the screen still are reading the
book in an alternative format, so they will have it presented in whatever way
the bookshare system decides. If they do not like the DAISY presentation they
have to learn how to change it themselves. If people use the HTML they will
get double spacing between paragraphs, and if they need a bigger font it is
quite easy for them to change the defaults for the browser so they can read
more easily.
We must only make sure that the books we submit are understandable to the
bookshare utilities, so they are processed correctly.
If anyone needs to know how to make books they download from the collection
more readable for them, then they should ask how they can fix what they don't
like themselves. that is a far better solution than trying to change all books
uploaded to suit them. Page numbering, page breaks, and the existence of some
type of paragraphing are of course a different issue, since once they are
removed, nothing anyone can do can bring them back. :-)
Sarah Van Oosterwijck
Assistive Technology Trainer
http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
----- Original Message -----
From: Cindy
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:24 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: paragraph spacing
I don't scan any more, Jill, except to provide missing
pages for people or to do some children's books which
usually have to be typed rather than scanned. But when
I do provide missing pages, I like to have them in
sync with the rest of the book, so I usually ask the
person with the file. I'm learning, however, that the
formatting really doesn't matter, except perhaps for
those bookshare members whose disability is not lack
of vision but something else.
I wonder what percentage that is. It would be nice to
know what the breakdown of bookshare membership is,
percentagewise, vis a vis disability and general age
groups.
Cindy
--- Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> How are you scanning books? I agree with Sarah; rely
> on your scanning
> program; that's what it's for.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:39 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: paragraph spacing
>
>
> > Is this important for .rtf files. I never thought
> about it. Doesn't the
> > Braille translator take care of this when it sees
> a hard return? But if I
> > save books in .rtf files, I get no indenting, but
> I don't think I get any
> > tabs either. I do bring the books into word to
> make sure the page breaks
> > are where they should be, since Wordpad doesn't
> seem to show them, but I
> > didn't look for tabs or try to eliminate them. I
> used to do this
> > indenting when I had WordPerfect. I would search
> and replace each hard
> > return tab combination with a hard return tab and
> two spaces so it would
> > look more natural when I read books on a Braille
> display. Do I need to do
> > this for the .rtf files I submit or validate? I
> didn't think about it on
> > the last book I scanned or the last one I
> validated.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > -
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:24 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: paragraph spacing
> >
> >
> >> Right. I've found under Formatting that I can set
> >> First lines to indent however many spaces I want.
> The
> >> dfault is .5, but I use .3. That eliminates both
> tabs
> >> and the space bar.
> >>
> >> By volunteering for bookshare I'm constantly
> learning
> >> more about how to use Word. I wish I'd known some
> of
> >> them sooner so the earlier books I uploaded were
> >> better from a formatting point of view.
> >>
> >> Cindy
> >>
> >> --- Paula and James Muysenberg
> >> <outofsightlife@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Someone on this list recently said that tabs
> are
> >>> somehow lost in Bookshare's conversion process.
> If
> >>> that's the case, it won't work to indent
> paragraphs
> >>> with tabs.
> >>>
> >>> Paula
> >>
> >>
> >>
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