[bksvol-discuss] Re: pagination
- From: "Julie Morales" <mercy421@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:33:33 -0400
Hi, Lissi. OK...I don't use DAISY, but I know what it's like to not understand
something like this, so I'll try to tell you what I know, at least regarding
pagination. DAISY files have tags to help with navigation within the file.
Those tags include tags for pagination, among other things. That's part of what
the stripper does. When you submit a file and take the braille file, when it
looks like page numbers are gone from the braille file, the stripper stripped
them but they were incorporated into the tags for the DAISY files, so they
might be gone for those of us who use braille, but if you thwart the stripper
by making it so that it doesn't remove page numbers, that also makes the
navigation by pages for the DAISY files impossible because the DAISY tags for
pagination can't be made. Did I explain this any better or just confuse you
even more? *grin* Take care.
Julie Morales
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----- Original Message -----
From: Estelnalissi
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:25 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: pagination
Dear Julie,
I really don't understand that part about Daisy tags at all. I'm not
complaining, I just don't understand.
What if I wrote the page number twice, once for Daisy and once for braille,
If I tried that, would I write one directly on the line below the other? or,
write the page number, leave a blank line and write the page number again on
the next line?
Always With Love,
And, Julie, it's good to see you.
Lissi
----- Original Message -----
From: Julie Morales
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:20 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: pagination
Hi, Lissi. A lot of us braille readers do want page numbers retained, but
as I said the other day in a message to Cindy, we really do need to be careful
about inserting characters so the page numbers don't get removed. Yes, they are
removed in the braille file, but they are put into the tags for the DAISY
files, so if you fix it so the page numbers are not removed, they won't be in
the DAISY tags. We'll be solving one problem and creating another one. Take
care.
Julie Morales
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----- Original Message -----
From: Estelnalissi
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:10 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] pagination
Dear Bookshare Friends,
I can hear you now. "oh no. Not another one." Sorry, but it is the
question you've heard over and over and I'm still perplexed.
I've just finished validating a long book, nearly 500 pages. The biggest
challenge was to make the format uniform.
After reviewing my saved Bookshare advice files, I'm still worried about
uploading the book.
I'm concerned about page numbers. I still don't understand how the
stripper works. As the rich text file edited with microsoft word using jaws and
windows XP, I began each page as follows,
Jaws says page break
Jaws says the page in a low voice at the beginning of the page where I
have done the following
line 1 is blank line jaws says blank
line 2. Page number at beginning of next line - jaws says the number
line 3 blank line, jaws says blank
4th line text begins, Jaws begins reading.
Also, I left one blank line at the end of each page.
In one of the messages I reviewed, Jake seemed to be saying to Cindy that
if she had two lines of writing together followed by a blank line and then
text, the stripper would ignore it.
should I put a star on the line directly above the page number, or three
dashes so I'll have 2 lines of text together where I want the page number to
be?. Should it be, line 1, blank, 2, star or dashes, 3 the number 4 blank and 5
the text? Should I leave one blank line at the bottom of each page or more? I
don't want to add extra characters for a braille reader to have to skim over
or a listener to hear again and again unless they help keep the page numbers in
tact.
I'm sorry to rehash this.
Always With Love,
Lissi
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