I know what you mean Julie--I can't aim a spray bottle at all. I've found that my cat, who was a rescued stray that nearly starved to death in the past, really doesn't grasp the concept that human mouth noises have meaning. Even very simple words like No or Get Down have no meaning for her. Many cats will ignore what you say to them and you can tell when they do it on purpose, but I'm absolutely certain that my cat doesn't get it. I've found that using gestures works much better with her. If I want her to come sit by me I pat my lap or the couch. If I want her to get down, I clap my hands to get her attention and then gesture at her and at the floor. She's a cat, so of course she doesn't always do what I want, but the visual gestures work much better than screaming at her like a maniac ever did, and it's a lot more pleasant. <lol> We think the cat has damaged hearing because she isn't afraid of loud sounds at all--she'll sit and watch me vacuum from 3 feet away. Kellie To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.