[bksvol-discuss] numbering pages preceding arabic numbers, i.e., usually the main text

  • From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:26:23 -0800

I was just reading Roger's reply to Ohio -- I think he meant  put lower
case roman numerals, on the opening pages,, if they are not already
numbered, not ower case arabic numbers smile
 Cindy

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:01 AM, <ohio1803@xxxxx> wrote:

>   *Say, thank you, Roger, for taking the time to further explain this.*
> *I get it now, I think. Or this is how it seems.*
>
> *The uppercase Roman numerals are to distinguish them from the lower case
> ones which are already on the page, thus I guess we at Bookshare will know
> and be able to distinguish that.*
>
> *So then are they removed by the validators?*
> *Just curious.*
>
> *When I do my next scan for submission, I will try and remember this new
> (to me), piece of instruction.*
>
> *Thanks again, everybody.*
> *Rik*
>
>  *From:* mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 27, 2014 5:58 PM
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question
>
> I don't know what it accomplishes for the reader either. I am just
> repeating what was said on this list once in the past when the question
> came up. As I understand the rule it goes like this. Books frequently have
> pages numbered with Roman numerals before the page numbered 1 with Arabic
> numerals. Most often those pages are numbered with lower case Roman
> numerals up to the point that Arabic numerals begin. By the way, I have
> always disliked that and I disliked it back when I was reading print books
> with my eyes. It has just always seemed fit and proper to me that the first
> page of a book should be page one. However, that is not how many, many
> books are numbered. When those preliminary pages are numbered with lower
> case Roman numerals we are supposed to retain them. If there are no Roman
> numerals or any other kind of numerals on the pages before the beginning of
> the Arabic numerals with the Arabic numeral1 we are supposed to number them
> with lower case Arabic numerals ourselves. On occasion there will be
> preliminary pages that are numbered with lower case Roman numerals up to
> Arabic numeral1, but before Roman numeral i there will be even more pages
> that are not numbered at all. Once before the question of how to number
> those pages came up on this list. We were instructed to number those
> prepreliminary pages with capitol Roman numerals I, II, III and so forth up
> to the page that is numbered with lower case Roman numeral i.
> On 11/27/2014 3:18 PM, ohio1803@xxxxx wrote:
>
>  *I am wishing for clarification here.*
>
> wrote:
>
>> Pages preceding the Roman numeral pages in lower case should be numbered
>> with a separate sequence of capitalized Roman numerals.
>>
>> *This does not completely make sense to me.*
>> *First is it a scanning question, or is it a validator’s question?*
>>
>> *Does this mean when you ADD an uppercase Roman numeral?*
>> *Or also when you are just moving it from say the bottom to top of the
>> page?*
>>
>> *I don’t remember hearing about it either.*
>> *And I have not noticed it in books as I read them, to hear 2 roman
>> numerals on a numbered pages.*
>> *I would like to hear what this is exactly accomplishing for the reader
>> or whatever.*
>>
>> *Thanks.*
>> *Rik*
>>
>>
>>
>
>  *From:* mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 27, 2014 12:36 PM
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question
>
> I don't know when it started, but my own knowledge of it comes from
> discussion on this list from a long time ago. How long, I don't remember.
> On 11/27/2014 2:19 PM, Susan Lumpkin wrote:
>
>  Cindy, I didn’t know that either and haven’t seen anything about it
> before. I’ve never done that in the past. I wonder when this started?
>
> Susan
>
>
>
> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Cindy Rosenthal
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 27, 2014 1:43 AM
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question
>
>
>
> Interesting. I didn't know that. I better save that info in my file of
> such things. Thanks, Roger
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Roger Loran Bailey <
> dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Pages preceding the Roman numeral pages in lower case should be numbered
> with a separate sequence of capitalized Roman numerals.
>
>
> On 11/26/2014 4:07 PM, Kim Friedman wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm about to start a project. There are Roman numerals in my file and
> the first one is I (in this case it doesn't have a capital letter which is
> how Bookshare specifies). My question is how does one number a page before
> Roman numeral I? Regards, Kim Friedman.
>
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