[bksvol-discuss] Re: need copyright check on old book

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:25:03 -0800 (PST)

Interesting. What is it now? For some reason I keep
thinking 75 years.  Project Gutenberg, when I started
with them, wouldn't accept anything unless it was
published befoe 1922, but that was a few years ago.

Cindy


--- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Cindy,
>     Just a side note. At that time copyrights lasted
> for twenty-eight years 
> with an optional one time renewal. So from 1956 to
> 1984 is a 28 year gap. 
> 1984 is probably the renewal date. And like someone
> said the database 
> available online only goes back to sometime in the
> 1970s.
> 
> Copyright law is much different now and changes
> affect older copyrights as 
> well. The 28-28 was in effect during 1956 though.
> 
> Jake
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 6:14 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: need copyright check
> on old book
> 
> 
> > Tracy,
> >
> > In a way this is complicated, but in another way
> it is
> > not.
> >
> > The book is listed on Amazon.com and the copyright
> > page is available to view. This is what I copied
> from
> > the copyright page:  (from he beginning to the
> final
> > quotation mark, except for what I put in
> parentheses)
> > and probably what Carrie will find in the
> university
> > copy.
> >
> > "Originally published in Japan as Shin Heike
> > Monogatari" (the Japanese title is in italics)
> > "copyright symbol 1956 by Alfred A. Knopf, Inc.
> >
> > Published by Tuttle Publishing,
> > an imprint of Periplus Editions (HK) Ltd.,
> > by special arrangement with Alfred A. Knopf, Inc.,
> New
> > York
> >
> > All rights reserved. No part of this book may be
> > reproduced in any form without permission in
> writing
> > from the publisher, except by a reviewer, who may
> > quote brief passages in a review to be printed in
> a
> > magazine or newspaper.
> >
> > ISBN 0-8048-3318-4
> >
> > First Tuttle edition, 1956
> > Thirteenth printing, 2002
> >
> > Printed in Singapore"
> >
> > Then comes, also on the copyright page, three
> > paragraphs of Distributed by offices, which I have
> not
> > copied, but will if you need me to.
> >
> > It seems as if the book you have is a printing of
> the
> > 1956 book, and so Knopf has the copyright. The
> > government copyright office has something
> different,
> > but what it has seems to refer to a book
> copyrighted
> > in 1984. Both Knopf, as "proprietor of a copyright
> in
> > a work made for hire," and Uramatsu, has
> translator,
> > hold copyrights to that book.  I'm putting the
> entire
> > page from the copyright site below.
> >
> > I'd put in the Comments section, when you upload
> the
> > book, the paragraph I've just written, (except
> change
> > "It seems as if" to "The book I have" and explain
> that
> > you've checked both the copyright page that is
> > available to view in Amazon and the government
> > copyright site. They are different because they
> are
> > different editions, (a printing is not an edition
> > because nothing in it is changed)  My guess is
> that
> > the publisher, Knopf, hired Uramatsu to translate
> the
> > original book.
> >
> > Here's the copy of the only entry re the book at
> the
> > government copyright site.
> >
> > RE-229-674
> > Title: The Heike story. By aEiji Yoshikawa,
> > translator: acFuki
> > Wooyenaka Uramatsu, illustrator: Kenkichi
> Sugimoto.
> > Note: Originally pub. in Japan as Heike
> monogatari.
> > Claimant: Fuki Wooyenaka Uramatsu (A) & acAlfred
> A.
> > Knopf , Inc. (PWH of Kenkichi Sugimoto)
> > Effective Registration Date: 18Dec84
> > Original Registration Date: 17Oct56;
> > Original Registration Number: A256437.
> > Original Class: A
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> >
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