Interesting. What is it now? For some reason I keep thinking 75 years. Project Gutenberg, when I started with them, wouldn't accept anything unless it was published befoe 1922, but that was a few years ago. Cindy --- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Cindy, > Just a side note. At that time copyrights lasted > for twenty-eight years > with an optional one time renewal. So from 1956 to > 1984 is a 28 year gap. > 1984 is probably the renewal date. And like someone > said the database > available online only goes back to sometime in the > 1970s. > > Copyright law is much different now and changes > affect older copyrights as > well. The 28-28 was in effect during 1956 though. > > Jake > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 6:14 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: need copyright check > on old book > > > > Tracy, > > > > In a way this is complicated, but in another way > it is > > not. > > > > The book is listed on Amazon.com and the copyright > > page is available to view. This is what I copied > from > > the copyright page: (from he beginning to the > final > > quotation mark, except for what I put in > parentheses) > > and probably what Carrie will find in the > university > > copy. > > > > "Originally published in Japan as Shin Heike > > Monogatari" (the Japanese title is in italics) > > "copyright symbol 1956 by Alfred A. Knopf, Inc. > > > > Published by Tuttle Publishing, > > an imprint of Periplus Editions (HK) Ltd., > > by special arrangement with Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., > New > > York > > > > All rights reserved. No part of this book may be > > reproduced in any form without permission in > writing > > from the publisher, except by a reviewer, who may > > quote brief passages in a review to be printed in > a > > magazine or newspaper. > > > > ISBN 0-8048-3318-4 > > > > First Tuttle edition, 1956 > > Thirteenth printing, 2002 > > > > Printed in Singapore" > > > > Then comes, also on the copyright page, three > > paragraphs of Distributed by offices, which I have > not > > copied, but will if you need me to. > > > > It seems as if the book you have is a printing of > the > > 1956 book, and so Knopf has the copyright. The > > government copyright office has something > different, > > but what it has seems to refer to a book > copyrighted > > in 1984. Both Knopf, as "proprietor of a copyright > in > > a work made for hire," and Uramatsu, has > translator, > > hold copyrights to that book. I'm putting the > entire > > page from the copyright site below. > > > > I'd put in the Comments section, when you upload > the > > book, the paragraph I've just written, (except > change > > "It seems as if" to "The book I have" and explain > that > > you've checked both the copyright page that is > > available to view in Amazon and the government > > copyright site. They are different because they > are > > different editions, (a printing is not an edition > > because nothing in it is changed) My guess is > that > > the publisher, Knopf, hired Uramatsu to translate > the > > original book. > > > > Here's the copy of the only entry re the book at > the > > government copyright site. > > > > RE-229-674 > > Title: The Heike story. By aEiji Yoshikawa, > > translator: acFuki > > Wooyenaka Uramatsu, illustrator: Kenkichi > Sugimoto. > > Note: Originally pub. in Japan as Heike > monogatari. > > Claimant: Fuki Wooyenaka Uramatsu (A) & acAlfred > A. > > Knopf , Inc. (PWH of Kenkichi Sugimoto) > > Effective Registration Date: 18Dec84 > > Original Registration Date: 17Oct56; > > Original Registration Number: A256437. > > Original Class: A > > > > Good luck > > > > Cindy > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email > to > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > subject line. To get a list > > of available commands, put the word 'help' by > itself in the subject line. > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - > Release Date: 12/16/2005 > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject > line. To get a list of available commands, put the > word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.