I've actually seen in a couple books starting with roman numerals then
switching to arabic numbers without restarting the page count. However,
I can't understand why bookshare would want us to do that unless there
was some evidence from the scanned book that there was such an odd
occurrence. What Cindy is saying seems to be that she had a book with no
page numbers before page 21 and did the usual thing of adding arabic
numbers for the first 20 pages that did not have numbers. But someone at
bookshare returned the book and said she had to convert them to roman
numerals. That sounds very odd to me.
Misha
On 10/30/2016 5:39 PM, Roger Loran Bailey (Redacted sender rogerbailey81
for DMARC) wrote:
If I was looking for a specific page and pages were numbered in the Roman style up to page twenty and then suddenly switched to Arabic I am sure that I would become confused.
On 10/29/2016 11:57 PM, Cindy Rosenthal wrote:
Interesting rationale, Roger, and that makes sense; but why are Roman numerals necessary for navigaton rather than Arabic numbers? maybe that's what's necessary for vanessa to explain. Why couldn't the pages preceding page 21 ( in this case, p. 19 in my other book be navigated with Arabic numbers?
Cindy
On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Well, the point is to preserve the pagination in the print book.
If page 1 starts on page 15 you have to preserve that pagination
even if it is an annoyance. And it is an annoyance. I thought
that back when I was fully sighted and was reading print books.
It has always seemed to me that page 1 should start on page 1.
But that's not the way the publishers saw it. It is a practice
that has been going on long enough that it is a tradition, for
the pages that come before the Arabic numbered pages to be
numbered in lower case Roman numerals. If that is how the actual
print book has them then you are following the way that book was
printed to include them that way. If they are unnumbered in the
print book I suppose Bookshaere needs some kind of page numbers
for navigation purposes and just follows that tradition. It is
the text that we are not supposed to change and that has to do
with copyright. Page numbers have to do with formatting the book
and are not copyrighted. There can be certain changes in that to
conform to Bookshare formatting standards, but insofar as the
book is already numbered it is necessary to preserve that. If you
are in a classroom, for example, and the teacher says to turn to
some page you will want everyone to be on the same page. It is
also important to have those page numbers correct for citations
if you are writing a research paper or otherwise making reference
to the book.
On 10/29/2016 3:54 AM, Cindy Rosenthal wrote:
I've just spent a few hours changing pages that precede the
main text of a book to lower case Roman numerals. Originally
I'd numbered them with Arabic numbers to end up with p. 21 which
is the page on which Chapter 1 is.
Why, since the book has Arabic page numbers do we have use
Roman numerals for preceding pages? I thought we're not
supposed to do things differently from the print book
Cindy
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