[bksvol-discuss] Re: italics
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 17:46:08 -0700 (PDT)
I retain both bold and italics. Remember, there are sighted members, too.
smile. And I think, though I may be wrong, that the voices might emphasize
italics?
G.Cindy
--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Devorah Greenstein <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Devorah Greenstein <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: italics
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 5:25 PM
> I just came back to the list and I missed the beginning of
> this
> conversation. I always retain italics. Is it fruitless to
> retain them?
> Is this what I'm hearing? What about words that are in
> bold type?
> Sorry if I missed the answer.
> Devorah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> EVAN REESE
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:07 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: italics
>
> There is a method for indicating italicized and
> nonitalicized text in
> braille, but Bookshare's brf books aren't doing it.
>
> Evan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grandma Cindy"
> <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:08 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: italics
>
>
> > To a sighted reader it does indicate emphasis or, in
> the case of
> personal
> > letters written, or notes written from one person to
> another,it makes
> it
> > more realistic, if one can say that--and sometimes, as
> in Penduli,
> which I
> > just finished validating, it indicates a person's
> thoughts vis-a-vis
> what
> > he/she is saying.
> >
> > I can't think offhand of all the used to which
> italics are used--I
> think
> > those are the main ones. Sometimes newspaper articles
> within a story
> are
> > given in italics, but I don't think that's
> essential; it would
> probably be
> > just as clear to a sighted reader if it were indented
> and in quotation
>
> > marks.
> >
> > I assume when I validate that Jaws or Daisy or
> whatever is audio--I
> still
> > don't have the various technologies straight in my
> mind, though it was
>
> > explained once--emphasizes the italics in speech, or
> somehow reads it
> > differently, though you just said that JAWS
> didn't, so I must be
> confused.
> > And I thought someone posted that braille
> differentiates italics, but
>
> > that wasn't your question. smile
> >
> > G.Cindy
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, Jill O'Connell
> <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Jill O'Connell
> <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: italics
> >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 10:29 PM
> >> Thank you but that's not the problem or the
> question. I
> >> have sighted help
> >> and have copied the sentence. My question is, this
> is going
> >> to make a real
> >> change in the print copy so the sighted reader
> (dyslexic
> >> etc.) will miss the
> >> way it looks in the book entirely. This is why I
> am asking
> >> how others are
> >> dealing with this issue. But thanks again for your
> offer.
> >> You know I won't
> >> hesitate to ask you for help when I need it; you
> are always
> >> so generous.
> >> Jill
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Grandma Cindy"
> >> <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 8:29 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: italics
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > What is the book, Jill? If I can get it, I
> can send
> >> you the sentence
> >> > italicized.
> >> >
> >> > G.Cindy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, Jill O'Connell
> >> <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> From: Jill O'Connell
> >> <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] italics
> >> >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 3:55 PM
> >> >> I have been following the discussion on
> the list
> >> about
> >> >> making italics but
> >> >> have done nothing about it so far; this
> is partly
> >> because
> >> >> Kurzweil does such
> >> >> a good job reading them and although it
> would be
> >> nice, I
> >> >> didn't think it was
> >> >> all that important making the italics
> available in
> >> braille
> >> >> since they
> >> >> wouldn't be shown in the speech
> version
> >> either. Now,
> >> >> however, I am
> >> >> confronted with an example that Kurzweil
> can't
> >> read and
> >> >> it's fairly long. I
> >> >> can retype it but, of course, the effect
> will be
> >> lost for
> >> >> the sighted
> >> >> reader. I would really welcome being told
> what
> >> others are
> >> >> doing in similar
> >> >> situations. I think it is virtually
> impossible to
> >> >> accommodate the three
> >> >> readinggroups who use Bookshare. I wonder
> how the
> >> staff
> >> >> doing scanning
> >> >> would handle this situation. Any comments
> would be
> >> welcome.
> >> >> Jill
> >> >>
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