[bksvol-discuss] Re: is it of use to do the changes before submitting to Bookshare?

  • From: Rik James <rixmix2009@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 22:41:46 -0600

Hello it's me again.
I spent some time making the changes suggested on my Mayor of MacDougal 
Book.

All went well.  And it is nearly ready to submit.
But I have one issue that occurred somewhere in the process.
And I wonder if you who may know these format codes might assist me.

I have a section, several pages, in my book now where the text is off to the 
right, like it is in columns or something. It was not there before, as I 
checked back on my back up copy.  And during this run of pages the text 
flows into a next page, since the margin is smaller and all that text does 
not fit on there.  Is this a big problem?  Can you suggest the instructions 
to say mark that section and remove the column formatting code?

I don't quite understand the cause, except that these columns were not there 
before.  The section starts somehwere near where there were a series of 
photographs and there were captions, and I think that is where k-1000 
thought to make columns.

Or it happened in the universal find and replace sequence.

All the other changes went well.
I could just submit it here and now but if I could fix this segment, I'd 
feel glad about it.

I went point by point with the find and replace from the instructions on the 
manual page.
I kept all my notes as I went along, to include in volunteer comments or to 
email to the proofreader if he or she thinks it would be useful.

Thanks for any help, and for the encouragement in previous posts.

Rik



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From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:51 AM
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: is it of use to do the changes before 
submitting to Bookshare?

Hi Rik,

If you standardize the font, it does help.  Scanning software, for
some unknown reason, often makes books of varying and dismaying font sizes.
This is awful for a sighted proofreader to deal with, and can hamper daisy
navigation if not corrected before the book is added to the bookshare
collection. So, if you standardize the font size, when you insert text, it
will match the font around it.  You will, however, have to enlarge and bold
headings, that is, titles, and chapter headings by hand after you've
standardized the font size.

Hope that helps.

Enlarging headings/titles by four points more than the text of the
document allows daisy navigation by heading.  If you don't enlarge the
chapter headings and the title of the book on the title page, you won't be
able to jump to those things using daisy navigation once the book is in the
bookshare collection.

Having done these things is something  that you might want to
include in the notes for the proofreader when you submit the book, so that
he or she doesn't do them unnecessarily.  Unfortunately, I don't think that
many volunteers do these things yet, but I'm hoping that they will begin
more and more to do them.

Thanks for all of your effort and attention to detail.

It does make a difference in the end to folks reading the books that you
work on.

Mayrie

-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rik James
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:37 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: is it of use to do the changes before
submitting to Bookshare?

Thank you to E. and Evan for your replies.
I have not yet finished in this endeavor, but did proceed with some of it
and will continue with it before submitting.
I don't know if I will do it for each book I submit, but to better myself
and if it eases the process and helps to ensure a really good quality
volunteer scanned book is in the collection, why then I'm all for it. And
who knows I just may learn something!

Indeed, I did make a backup copy of my book, and set about to do the changes
doing the find and replace.
I had already put the blank lines above and below each page number on each
page as I was scanning and doing the book.  So there were zero replacements
made on all of those.  But that long hyphen find all and replace all
replacement was a really good thing to learn. I have long found that those
are an annoyance. In my k-1000 the voice always runs together the words
separated by only a long hyphen and no space.  I had been doing a find all
and replace all in k-1000 but I think having this code in word to do it is
much cleaner.

My next question for you is this business about the font size changing.
If I understand the bookshare manual, it is saying to do this in k-1000,
correct?

I have noticed from time to time that my book scans, when I check them, do
seem to have different font sizes. Say when there is a missing page number
in the scan and I type it in, or there is a scanning error that I correct
and I type it in.  The typing text default font is probbably different style
and size and I guess this is why.  So, these universal changes will fix all
of that, plus make the headings correct, yes?

Any comments or suggestions, let me hear them. I will proceed to follow the
instructions in the volunteer manual for now.

And if one of you wants to proof this book, let me know, and I'll do that
business of putting the text "hold for (your name here)" in the file name
upon submission.

Thanks.
Rik



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From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:40 AM
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: is it of use to do the changes before
submitting to Bookshare?

As far as I know, the changes will be retained. And, if there are smart
quotes in the book, changing them to regular quotes is important because
those smart quotes are not handled properly by the braille translator.

Evan

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Rik James
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:09 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] is it of use to do the changes before submitting
to Bookshare?


  I have just finished my scan of "Mayor of MacDougal Street: A Memoir" by
Dave Van Ronk with Elijah Wald.

  It was a beautiful scan, and the ranked spelling is all done, and even
yes, the index.

  I was thinking of trying for my first time to follow the Tips in the
manual where you do the replacements etc
  Where you open the file in Word and do the search and replace all of the
various things like smart quotes and such that I hear some of you have been
talking about.

  Before I do it, though, I wanted to make sure it is desired.  Or if really
when I send up and upload it, and submit the RTF file of the book.  Will
those cnanges be retained?

  I guess before I spend the time to do the extra mile, I want to be sure
that I am not doing it for no reason.

  Thanks.

  Rik James

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