Hello, I used to think it was always necessary to open an RTF that refused to upload in Word to change it and make it acceptable. Today I had an experience that proved that is not always true. I editted the file in Kurzweil, but it was not a file that was created with Kurzweil and so could not have had the typical KES stuff that shouldn't end up in an RTF. When I got the error I had the file open in Kurzweil to check the spelling of something, and when I switched focus to Kurzweil I remembered that I hadn't done my usual search and replace to illiminate rediculous numbers of spaces. I did that and just because I was feeling lazy I tried uploading the file again without opening it in something else. And ... it worked! Sarah Van Oosterwijck http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity/