Nicely done, Scott. I don't think 8 Holds For is too many, given the 5-book-download limit. If one is working on a book that takes time and has 4 others either that one is really interested in or that are long or difficult, e.g., the Tolkien books, one has to leave the Hold on the download list for a while--or risk releasing something else that might not be as well-done by another validator because of problems or specialized knowledge. Before the 5-book limit we could take them off step one and hold them, but now--- Cindy --- Scott Blanks <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Playing the numbers game, currently on step one: > 1. There are a total of 378 books on step one at > this moment. > 2. 52 of these are in the Kurzweil KES format. > 3. 8 are in the OpenBook ARK format. > 4. 8 have the words "hold for" somewhere in the > title. > 5. There are 4 WYN titles on step one. > 6. totaling the books from 2 through 5, you have 72 > titles either in a > proprietary format, or being held for specific > validators. > 7. less than one of every five books is off limits > to the average validator. > > Of course, these numbers are constantly fluid, but > the fact that over 80% of > the books can be downloaded by the vast majority of > validators is > encouraging. As time goes by, and awareness grows, > more and more people will > submit in the rtf format. > > Scott > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:24 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: hold for means just > that > > > > > > > > When you count all the books that say "hold for", > and the books that are > > either in ark or kes format, there is a lot of > good reading that those of > > us > > who just have Word cannot handle. Oh, and I > forgot, there are some WYN > > books as well. > > > > Sue S. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lori Castner" > <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:22 PM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: hold for means just > that > > > > > > Well, I agree with the points that both of you > have made. But if the > > person > > the book is being held for is not on this list, > which might be possible, > > the > > person wishing to take the book would not know how > to contact them. > > > > And I do agree with Jackie that there should be > some time limit on a hold. > > Problem is that just means administrators would > have one more thing to > > program or keep track of. > > > > Cat Lover Lori > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:10 PM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: hold for means just > that > > > > > >> Jackie, > >> > >> You are welcome, and you are entitled to express > you > >> views--and they are worth something!! > >> > >> The problem of HOld Fors sitting on step one > didn't > >> exist as much before there was five-book limit. > People > >> downloaded the books and kept them off the step > one > >> page. > >> > >> Usually it's books people want to validate but > havne't > >> had time to get to them. Sometimes people do > forget > >> they're there. SOmetimes the books are not in > good > >> shape because the submitter hasn't had time or > >> inclination to prevalidate but the person the > book is > >> being held for is willing to do the work > involved. But > >> if someone else took the book and saw the shape > it's > >> in he/she might reject it. > >> > >> Often, if someone else wants to do the book, > he/she > >> can ask on the list if the person it's being held > for > >> wants it continue to be held or if he/she can > take > >> it. Usually the answer will be yes, because that > will > >> get it into the collection faster and anyone can > read > >> it--unless the book as problems. smile > >> > >> So if there's a book you'd like to do that's > being > >> held for someone else, feel free to ask here if > you > >> can take it. smile > >> > >> Cindy > >> --- Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >>> U know, yall, I'm just a newby so a) I don't > wanna > >>> tick any1 off; & b) > >>> therefore this observation doesn't count--but > there > >>> have been books up > >>> there on step 1 for months that say hold for > >>> so-&-so. I won't take > >>> them, & I think others feel likewise, because > first > >>> I believe & I > >>> think others do also that doing so bespeaks a > lack > >>> of integrity &, > >>> 2nd, well, folks get bent out of shape when a > book > >>> held for them gets > >>> taken. So, there they sit, & somehow that > doesn't > >>> seem quite right to > >>> me. But, like I said, I'm just a newby & what > do I > >>> know? Still, it > >>> seems to me from an admin point of view that > this > >>> hold for tag should > >>> be stripped from a title if not taken in a > >>> reasonable period, say 5 > >>> days to a week. Probably could be built in2 a > >>> crawler or bott or > >>> whatever u wanna call it. Obviously there might > be > >>> exceptions to why > >>> a book should be held longer, e.g., it's in a > >>> foreign language & there > >>> are only a few validators who read that or it > >>> requires some sort of > >>> specialized knowledge possessed by 1 or only a > few > >>> validators--but the > >>> books whereof I speak do not seem to fall in a > >>> category like that. > >>> Just a thought, my dad used to say I didn't get > paid > >>> to think, & yeah, > >>> he's probably right--it's likely worth exactly > what > >>> yall paid for it, > >>> but, o, well. > >>> > >>> On 9/26/07, Grandma Cindy > <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > >>> wrote: > >>> > I wonder if everybody knows to put Hold For in > >>> front > >>> > of the title. A newbie put it in the Comments > >>> section > >>> > for a book to be held for me. Since she told > me it > >>> was > >>> > up, I got it, and told her to put it in front > of > >>> the > >>> > title next time. If it's not in front of the > >>> title, > >>> > someone could download the book without even > >>> seeing > >>> > the Hold For. > >>> > > >>> > But maybe I'm being generous. My husband says > I > >>> always > >>> > look at the best explanation for what people > do. > >>> He's > >>> > more suspicious and gets annoyed with ne > >>> sometimes. > >>> > smile > >>> > > >>> > Cindy > >>> > > >>> > --- "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > Julie when somebody took my "hold for" book > I > >>> was > >>> > > told to contact > >>> > > Claire. Perhaps whoever took your hold > knows > >>> that > >>> > > Claire is on > >>> > > vacation and is taking advantage of the > >>> opportunity. > >>> > > > >>> > > E. > >>> > > > >>> > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank > >>> Email to > >>> > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > >>> subject > >>> > > line. 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