[bksvol-discuss] Re: hold for means just that

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:55:01 -0700 (PDT)

Nicely done, Scott. I don't think 8 Holds For is too
many, given the 5-book-download limit. If one is
working on a book that takes time and has 4 others
either that one is really interested in or that are
long or difficult, e.g., the Tolkien books, one has to
leave the Hold on the download list for a while--or
risk releasing something else that might not be as
well-done by another validator because of problems or
specialized knowledge. Before the 5-book limit we
could take them off step one and hold them, but now---

Cindy

--- Scott Blanks <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Playing the numbers game, currently on step one:
> 1. There are a total of 378 books on step one at
> this moment.
> 2. 52 of these are in the Kurzweil KES format.
> 3. 8 are  in the OpenBook ARK format.
> 4. 8 have the words "hold for" somewhere in the
> title.
> 5. There are 4 WYN titles on step one.
> 6. totaling the books from 2 through 5, you have 72
> titles either in a 
> proprietary format, or being held for specific
> validators.
> 7. less than one of every five books is off limits
> to the average validator.
> 
> Of course, these numbers are constantly fluid, but
> the fact that over 80% of 
> the books can be downloaded by the vast majority of
> validators is 
> encouraging. As time goes by, and awareness grows,
> more and more people will 
> submit in the rtf format.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:24 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: hold for means just
> that
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > When you count all the books that say "hold for",
> and the books that are
> > either in ark or kes format, there is a lot of
> good reading that those of 
> > us
> > who just have Word cannot handle.  Oh, and I
> forgot, there are some WYN
> > books as well.
> >
> > Sue S.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Lori Castner"
> <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:22 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: hold for means just
> that
> >
> >
> > Well, I agree with the points that both of you
> have made.  But if the 
> > person
> > the book is being held for is not on this list,
> which might be possible, 
> > the
> > person wishing to take the book would not know how
> to contact them.
> >
> > And I do agree with Jackie that there should be
> some time limit on a hold.
> > Problem is that just means administrators would
> have one more thing to
> > program or keep track of.
> >
> > Cat Lover Lori
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:10 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: hold for means just
> that
> >
> >
> >> Jackie,
> >>
> >> You are welcome, and you are entitled to express
> you
> >> views--and they are worth something!!
> >>
> >> The problem of HOld Fors sitting on step one
> didn't
> >> exist as much before there was five-book limit.
> People
> >> downloaded the books and kept them off the step
> one
> >> page.
> >>
> >> Usually it's books people want to validate but
> havne't
> >> had time to get to them. Sometimes people do
> forget
> >> they're there. SOmetimes the books are not in
> good
> >> shape because the submitter hasn't had time or
> >> inclination to prevalidate but the person the
> book is
> >> being held for is willing to do the work
> involved. But
> >> if someone else took the book and saw the shape
> it's
> >> in  he/she might reject it.
> >>
> >> Often, if someone else wants to do the book,
> he/she
> >> can ask on the list if the person it's being held
> for
> >> wants  it continue to be held or if he/she can
> take
> >> it. Usually the answer will be yes, because that
> will
> >> get it into the collection faster and anyone can
> read
> >> it--unless the book as problems. smile
> >>
> >> So if there's a book you'd like to do that's
> being
> >> held for someone else, feel free to ask here if
> you
> >> can take it. smile
> >>
> >> Cindy
> >> --- Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> U know, yall, I'm just a newby so a) I don't
> wanna
> >>> tick any1 off; & b)
> >>> therefore this observation doesn't count--but
> there
> >>> have been books up
> >>> there on step 1 for months that say hold for
> >>> so-&-so.  I won't take
> >>> them, & I think others feel likewise, because
> first
> >>> I believe & I
> >>> think others do also that doing so bespeaks a
> lack
> >>> of integrity &,
> >>> 2nd, well, folks get bent out of shape when a
> book
> >>> held for them gets
> >>> taken.  So, there they sit, & somehow that
> doesn't
> >>> seem quite right to
> >>> me.  But, like I said, I'm just a newby & what
> do I
> >>> know?  Still, it
> >>> seems to me from an admin point of view that
> this
> >>> hold for tag should
> >>> be stripped from a title if not taken in a
> >>> reasonable period, say 5
> >>> days to a week.  Probably could be built in2 a
> >>> crawler or bott or
> >>> whatever u wanna call it.  Obviously there might
> be
> >>> exceptions to why
> >>> a book should be held longer, e.g., it's in a
> >>> foreign language & there
> >>> are only a few validators who read that or it
> >>> requires some sort of
> >>> specialized knowledge possessed by 1 or only a
> few
> >>> validators--but the
> >>> books whereof I speak do not seem to fall in a
> >>> category like that.
> >>> Just a thought, my dad used to say I didn't get
> paid
> >>> to think, & yeah,
> >>> he's probably right--it's likely worth exactly
> what
> >>> yall paid for it,
> >>> but, o, well.
> >>>
> >>> On 9/26/07, Grandma Cindy
> <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > I wonder if everybody knows to put Hold For in
> >>> front
> >>> > of the title. A newbie put it in the Comments
> >>> section
> >>> > for a book to be held for me. Since she told
> me it
> >>> was
> >>> > up, I got it, and told her to put it in front
> of
> >>> the
> >>> > title next time. If it's not in front of the
> >>> title,
> >>> > someone could download the book without even
> >>> seeing
> >>> > the Hold For.
> >>> >
> >>> > But maybe I'm being generous. My husband says
> I
> >>> always
> >>> > look at the best explanation for what people
> do.
> >>> He's
> >>> > more suspicious and gets annoyed with ne
> >>> sometimes.
> >>> > smile
> >>> >
> >>> > Cindy
> >>> >
> >>> > --- "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Julie when somebody took my "hold for" book
> I
> >>> was
> >>> > > told to contact
> >>> > > Claire.  Perhaps whoever took your hold
> knows
> >>> that
> >>> > > Claire is on
> >>> > > vacation and is taking advantage of the
> >>> opportunity.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > E.
> >>> > >
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