[bksvol-discuss] Re: help me electronically save a good cat
- From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:28:33 -0500
Dear Sarah,
Your analogy explaining how zipped files work was helpful. You often post
good ideas or explanations which indicate how familiar you are with the ins
and outs of computers. Amazingly, I even sense you actually enjoy computer
problem solving and experimentation. I'm so eager to become a reliable
validator, I resist allotting time to understand my computer better.
I've also been tracking your efforts to collect and place tried and true
tips in to the new file. I'm sure your work will help many of us and we're
lucky that volunteers like you are willing to invest time in making sure we
can use the system and find answers to our questions.
Oh, a sad little note, while trying to deliver my cat to Book-share,
book-share labeled my bag an error and when I checked my files, the cat had
vanished completely. It left it's bag, but when opened, the contents were
completely gone.
Thank heavens more help has been offered so my next cat won't be uploaded
astray. grin
Always With Love,
Lissi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 8:01 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: help me electronically save a good cat
Other people have offered to help so I won't try to give assistence by
writing. I'm sure help over the phone will be much more helpful and far
less frustrating.
I just had to write that it seems a good deal of your problem is that your
cat is in a bag. LOL That might be a good way to conceptualize zip files.
You do have an RTF file, but it is zipped up in a bag so all you see is
the bag, I.E. a file with a .zip extention. Your computer can look at and
open the RTF that is in the ZIP without taking it out, or the software can
"unzip" the file, which would be like taking it out of the bag where you
can see it. I would think that if you find the ZIP file you downloaded
and press enter on it you will see the file name which should end in RTF.
In order to "Extract the file you probably need to press the application
key, which is just to the left of the right control key. That will bring
up what is called a context menu, which gives you a list of things you are
likely to want to do with a file. There should be an item that says
extract and that is the option you want. You should then only have to
decide where to put it, which might be the hard part.
Remember that bookshare will let you upload your file while it is zipped,
because The system can see inside the zip to check whether there is an RTF
file inside.
After all a product you purchase is still the same item whether or not it
is still in a shopping bag.
Sarah Van Oosterwijck
Assistive Technology Trainer
http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
----- Original Message -----
From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 1:33 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] help me electronically save a good cat
Dear Everyone,
I should have gotten it by now, but after not getting the excellent scan
of Echoes approved after I validated it, I've been putting off attempting
to upload the well scanned, very nice story of a cat in medieval times,
for a week. The scan should be pleasant to read, but I'm afraid I'll do
something wrong and it will drift about, who knows where, instead of being
added to the collection. I thought the file should be named with a dot rtf
before I began the uploading process.
I Tried to copy the dot zip file I worked with to an RTF file. Every RTF
book I download appears changed to dot zip and I don't know how to stop
that from happening.
When I open the RTF file I made, Jaws says something like, "File
conversion Julian_s.rtf dialogue list box Western European(windows
Jaws is on Western European) I get western European with .dos and ..iso
and .mac and us-askee and Viet namese.something by arrowing up in that
field.
If I upload that I'm afraid book share will just get pages and pages of
stuff not even written with the alphabet. I thought RTF meant a nice, easy
to read and work with text. How did I make this awful stuff appear?
Also, as I tab through this box trying to decide what to do, something I
land on makes it vanish.
Hoping someone has the patience to tackle this or knows a way to get this
book uploaded properly.
Always With Love,
Lissi
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Petraccaro
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:43 PM
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist requests
No. I mean that you install the pc equivalent software and these books
are readable. There's one other step which is that you need a very simple
set file to draw a window and read what's in that window at the press of
page-up or page-down. With Window-Eyes, that's a couple minutes work.
I've already done it and I'm very unfamiliar with set files. With JFW, it
should be equally easy.
There may be talking palm pilots which would work, but I'm not familiar
with them.
Alternatively, many books on PDB are also available as PDF. I have no
idea whether these would be readable.
----- Original Message -----
From: E.
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist requests
You mean I buy a palm pilot and then these books talk to me? How much
are
palm pilots? What else can I do with it and how would I do it with no
vision at all? Thanks for info.
E.
At 09:00 AM 11/19/2005, you wrote:
><http://www.ereader.com>www.ereader.com
>www.fictionwise.com
>I think it stands for Palm database or Palm Doc Book. It's a secure
or
>unsecure format readable via software or on such devices as Palm
Pilots.
>The software is accessible. There's a rumor going around that it's
not
>and I don't know how it got started. The unsecure formats can be
turned
>into text. I haven't had luck with the secured ones and, frankly,
since
>the software is accessible, I haven't tried that hard.
>Hope this helps.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>E.
>To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 4:15 AM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist requests
>
>What is pdb format and where are books available in that format? I
gather
>it can be used with speech. How? I mean with what program? Thanks.
>
>Would folks please also post about other unusual formats and how you
use
>them with speech or convert to something you can read with a braille
>display. Again thanks.
>E.
>At
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