[bksvol-discuss] Re: help interpreting comments on step one page

  • From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:45:51 -0400

Dear Gerald,

Thanks for expanding on the definition of Returnnew. What we know is that it means either a prospective validator returned it or Gistavo did,

Always With Love,

Lissi
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Hovas" <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:29 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: help interpreting comments on step one page



Lissi,

ReturnNew doesn't necessarily mean that Gustavo returned it, just that
someone has. ReturnNew will appear in the actions when someone has
downloaded the book, decided that they don't want to validate it for some
reason, then released it back to the Step 1 page. ReturnNew simply means
that it was Returned to the Step 1 page in the same condition that the
submitter submitted it, meaning that it is once again New or that it doesn't
contain any editing.


I don't see any examples of a volunteer's time expiring, but that may also
result in ReturnNew as well with a note that the time expired.  There may
also be a separate action for it.  I just don't remember.

HTH

Gerald

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Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 4:16 PM
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Dear Sarah,

Thank you yet again.

I enjoy knowing these terms.

I want to run this by you again to make sure I understand. When it says
returnnew, are you saying Gestavo removed the previous validator's changes
and has replaced the book on the step one page as it was originally sent by
the submitter?


I reviewed the list of actions again and noticed the book was edited twice
and returned as returnnew twice. It's been worked on for 2 months and I
notice different people have worked with it. It's pretty far down the list
and it doesn't seem anyone has gotten involved with it as their particular
project.

This looks like a good book for me to learn on.

I wish I didn't need to ask, but I realize I don't know for sure what is
meant by page breaks. Did you mean the page numbers in the low voice are
breaks placed in the book by Word, but don't count as the page breaks
Bookshare requires? In word in an RTF file, what would be the cue that an
official Bookshare page break was present?

Always With Love,

Lissi


----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: help interpreting comments on step one page


Action valid would mean that the book was uploaded by a validator for
final admin approval.

donedone means that the book went through whatever it is that books
usually go through when approved and uploaded.  It just means that they
went through the system and the message is probably stupid sounding and
criptic because it is only information for a computer and never really
ment to make a lot of sense to a person.  My guess is that the words
weren't even assigned by someone from bookshare, but are just part of the
tool they use.

returnnew Means that a week later Gustavo actually looked at the book when
he got to it in the approval queue and wasn't sure it was Okay.
The comments were from him, and evidently why he didn't think it was okay
was that he didn't think it had page breaks. Remember that not all
validators know what they are doing and might not know that page breaks
are a problem. Remember also that when books are sent back to the
validation pool they are returned as the original file the scanner
submitted, so returnnew actually means just what it says. The book is no
longer a validated book, but is however it was when submitted. The only
reason this might be a good thing would be if the validator somehow caused
the page breaks to disappear when they were there in the original file.


Sarah Van Oosterwijck
Assistive Technology Trainer
http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
----- Original Message -----
From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:59 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] help interpreting comments on step one page


Dear Everyone,

I was reviewing the books on the step one page and found some comments
which puzzle me. Can anyone explain?

One box said, Action - Valid, What does that mean? If the book was valid,
wouldn't it have been accepted?

Another box on the same book, posted at a later date said Donedone, which
done done as one word

The comment was

Updated by validation tools PHP

A week later the box said

action Returnnew, why does it say New when this is about the 6th action?

then the comment says,
Please verify that this book has page breaks
Please do not remove page breaks
If this book has no page breaks, please reject.

After that the book was downloaded twice more and it's still on the step
one page.

By the sixth download, wouldn't it have been established if the book had
page breaks or not?

This is in no way a criticism of the process this book has been through.
Before I attempt to validate it, I'd just like to understand the terms and
meaning of the record of downloads rather than to ignore them and possible
repeat mistakes or overlook tips that were given.


I know this is a complex question, but, ...Anything you can tell me would
be great.

Always With Love,

Lissi




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