Hi Kim. I, like you, grew up reading braille books with the title of the book on the top of odd numbered pages and nothing on the even numbered pages. Thus, we could believe that all books are written this way. Not true! I have learned a lot from reading bookshare books. Some books have the title of the page on odd numbered pages, and the author's name on even numbered pages. Others have the story or chapter title on the even numbered pages. I've seen some books that have no running headers, but I'm not sure whether the book was written that way, or the scannor, or proof reader, or stripper made the book that way. Maybe some of our sighted colleagues can tell us of other book styles they've encountered. Hope this helps. Bob "A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain." ----- Original Message ----- From: Kim Friedman To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:10 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] headers and footersRE: Re: Question, was: submitted The Little Bookheaders Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a header the title of a book? For example, in Braille books, I was accustomed to reading the title of the book on every odd numbered page. Now one sees the book title on the prefatory page where one gets the bibliographic information of the book and on the first page of text, I.e., where the story or document begins. I don't know what print books are like, but do you have the Book title on only the odd numbered pages or on all pages? I was pretty much able to ignore the book title on the various pages, though it tends to interrupt the reading just a bit because you have to skip the title line. Regards, Kim. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:13 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question, was: submitted The Little Bookheaders Valerie, we are supposed to delete them, but be careful to leave the page number. As a sighted person, do you pay attention to them? I never do. smile. Maybe if I were reading a book of short stories I'd use them to find a particular story, but otherwise I just ignore them, I think those members who listen to books don't have that opportunity if the headers are present. I don't know how they affect Braille readers. Cindy Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and books-being-scanned list available at sites below Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List Books Being Scanned List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List --- On Tue, 8/18/09, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question, was: submitted The Little Book To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 3:13 PM Dear Bud; I just noticed that you also are a ham radio operator. I am also in my call sign is: N0HSJ <br>I have a question probably as much for the list as for you, and that was talking about all headers have been deleted. Do you mean at the top of the page were sometimes it has the title and/or the name of the chapter? I have not been deleting these, as I think they provide visual cues for sighted readers, but if I should be deleting them, I will start with my next book. Or, is it okay to do it whichever way and just make a note in the submissions? Thanks as always for everyone's help! Valerie Please pray for Doug's Dad & visit his website: http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billkoonce > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bud Schwab > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:27 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] submitted The Little Book > > Hi Gang, > > Just sent in The Little Book by Selden Edwards. It's a little over > 400 pages and all headers have been deleted and it has quite a low > rank spelling number. It's fiction but there is a lot of history in it > also. > Hope somebody enjoys proofing it. > > > Bud Schwab > W 6 Z Y P > Malibu, California To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4346 (20090818) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4347 (20090819) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4347 (20090819) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com