[bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
- From: "Amy Goldring Tajalli" <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:03:40 +0000
E.,
Judy knows the other two you mentioned, I know only Kurzweil.
When I begin scanning, I look at my initial pages and if I can read it enough to know if the pages are good I can leave it but I rarely can so I go to display and see what the print style and size are at magnification 1. If I can work with that font but just need to magnify it by 2 or 3 I do that instead of changing the font. If, however, that does not work I can try changing the font size or the font style . I must choose between multiply the whole or changing the font and its size. It is either or not both..There are a number of categories to go to and make decision and when you are are all done you save the settings and choose a name - usually the one of the book you are scanning. From then on, when you go to that file you will need to load the settings whenever you go to that file if the settings are not the ones you just set up.
As I am just reading a book in Kurzweil whic
h I do
wn-loaded from Bookshare's collection, It has the original settings I or that first tech put in which is not what I need now for reading and the book is in html so to change anything I have to go to File> Save as>books> Title>suffix you choose [rtf or kes] and in the line below where it probably has Rich Text Format or whatever you choose as what your suffix represents]. Since then, if you have more than one setting, you have to upload settings each time you go to that setting.
You need do this every time you go to that site. Any questions youj can go to <ndotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> who is the current senior technician as far as I can tell helping clients. He does prefer we go to the manual first but is patient with people like me who a more interested in spending my time scanning, proofing, correcting, reading, etcetera than in reading manuals.
I hope that helps.
Amy
"If it be now, 'Tis not to come./
If it be not to come, it
will b
e now.
If it be not now, Yet it will come.
The readiness is all.
William Shakespeare
-------------- Original message from "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: --------------
> Does anyone know how to "regulate fonts" using Kurzweil?
>
> What about using a braillenote or pacmate?
>
> Thanks.
>
> E.
>
>
> At 08:27 PM 6/2/2008, you wrote:
> >Hi Judy!
> >
> > Thank you for confirming for us that files whose fonts have
> > not been regulated retain those varied fonts, even after daisy
> > conversion. Now, even though Bookshare doesn't require regulating
> > fonts of its volunteers, we do know now that in order to provide
> > the clearest and most comfortable reading experience for all
> > Bookshare members, regulating the font helps a lot. We can choose
> > to take the time to regulate font or not as volunteers. Thanks
> > again for the clarification.
> >
> >Mayrie
> >
> > At 04:13 PM 6/2/2008, you wrote:
> >>Mayrie is correct - it's been my experience that fonts end up being
> >>a bazillion different sizes when books are scanned. As a sighted
> >>but disabled Bookshare member, this makes books that are in the
> >>collection very difficult to read when I unpack a Daisy file and
> >>use the html for visual reading. When I download a book to
> >>validate - and I've validated close to 100 books now - almost all
> >>of the .rft files have widely varying fonts throughout the scans,
> >>unless the individual who scanned the book has checked and and
> >>standardized the fonting.
> >>
> >>As Mayrie said, it's not necessary for submissions to address
> >>this. However, it literally takes only about 30 seconds using
> >>Word, and a few keystrokes, to change an entire book to have one
> >>consistent font throughout. smile.
> >>
> >>As a sighted Bookshare member, I can tell you that it puts an
> >>additional barrier into reading, and it makes books on Bookshare
> >>less accessible to have books with wildly variable fonting.
> >>
> >>The best way I can describe it as a visual experience in equivalent
> >>listening terms is that it's as if narrator varies from whispering
> >>to shrieking and every noise level in-between, going back and forth
> >>constantly in volume and emphasis with no rhyme or reason. smile.
> >>
> >>I usually download, back-translate and read braille books from the
> >>collection. That way I get a file that I find much more readable,
> >>even though it loses appropriate fonting and formatting that a
> >>well-done Daisy file preserves, formatting that enhances the
> >>reading experience for the visual reader.
> >>
> >>The Daisy conversion does preserve the fonting, by the way, in my
> >>experience based on the books I've downloaded that are in the
> >>collection. I recall reading somewhere that Daisy conversion has
> >>difficulties with teeny fonts and massively huge fonts - but I
> >>can't speak to that specifically, as I've never been involved with
> >>a Daisy conversion from the technical side.
> >>
> >>Judy s.
> >>
> >>Mayrie ReNae wrote:
> >>>Hi Nancy,
> >>> I don't know if regulating the font is a common
> >>> practice. I just know that I do it so that people reading with
> >>> their eyes won't have to read a book with a bazillion different
> >>> font sizes in it. I have been told that without regulating the
> >>> font that Kurzweil isn't consistent throughout a given book at
> >>> all. Drives sighted readers nuts, and takes me less than thirty
> >>> seconds in Microsoft Word to change it to all one font when
> >>> protecting page numbers and changing em dashes to double hyphens.
> >>>Mayrie
> >>>At 04:09 AM 6/2/2008, you wrote:
> >>>>Trying again,
> >>>>
> >>>>Is it a common practice to change the size font a book has if you
> >>>>are the scanner?
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks,
> >>>>Nancy
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy"
> >>>>To:
> >>>>Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:07 AM
> >>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I'm not positive that I understand your question, but I'll try.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>One can change font size and type in Word, and I do for chapter
> >>>>>titles and places where the print book has enlarged type, e.g.,
> >>>>>for store signs in one book I validated, or newspaper headlines
> >>>>>in another. But my scanner doesn't convert to the exact fonts
> >>>>>that are in the book. For some of the validations I've done I've
> >>>>>had to make enlarged fonts smaller because they don't fit on the
> >>>>>page. I was told in the past that some don't fit properly on
> >>>>>people's Braille readers or whatever they're using to read,
> >>>>>also. I seem to remember, and hope I'm not wrong, that a size of
> >>>>>36 was the largest that would fit. Of course that would depend
> >>>>>on the font style, because some are smaller than others, but to
> >>>>>be safe I don't enlarge anything more than 36.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>G.Cindy
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>From: NANCY M HILL
> >>>>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
> >>>>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>Date: Sunday, June 1, 2008, 10:36 PM
> >>>>>>Is there a place where you can adjust font size? Would you
> >>>>>>adjust the font
> >>>>>>size for any reason other to help you proof or validate the
> >>>>>>book if you had
> >>>>>>useable vision?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Nancy
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Amy Goldring Tajalli
> >>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:12 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Curtis,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> K1000 scans the print of the book at the size of the
> >>>>>>print - which I
> >>>>>>cannot read most of the time. When I first learned the
> >>>>>>program, the Kurzweil
> >>>>>>tech showed me how to set the size by magnification and I
> >>>>>>did not even
> >>>>>>notice the font or font size. Magnification does not change
> >>>>>>anything at base
> >>>>>>except what the scanner sees. It does not effect the final
> >>>>>>size which is
> >>>>>>what the book is in. All the corrections show up within the
> >>>>>>original text in
> >>>>>>the places I put them. If there is a problem, I ask that
> >>>>>>the
> >>>>>>editor/validator double check but most of the books I have
> >>>>>>submitted have
> >>>>>>been accepted as they were without going to step 2. If I am
> >>>>>>really worried,
> >>>>>>I make a note to have something checked for me so it will
> >>>>>>go to step 2. If
> >>>>>>not, I down load it when it is in the collection and double
> >>>>>>check there.
> >>>>>>Only once have I requested that the final form was bad
> >>>>>>enough that I want it
> >>>>>>sent back for rescanning and will be doing that soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Amy
> >>>>>> oms m
> >>>>>> < br>If it be now, 'tis not to come,
> >>>>>> If it be not to come, it will be now,
> >>>>>> If it be not now, yet it will come.
> >>>>>> The readiness is all.
> >>>>>> William Shakespeare.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -------------- Original message from Curtis Delzer
> >>>>>>: --------------
> >>>>>> Fascinating, every book I've read using K1000, for
> >>>>>>some reason, I did
> >>>>>>not pay attention at all to the font or it's size. hmm!
> >>>>>>:) Maybe I'm getting
> >>>>>>... what? forgetful? or .. what? :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Curtis Delzer
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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