[bksvol-discuss] Re: following block quote question, please clarify something for me?

  • From: "Paula and James Muysenberg" <outofsightlife@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Bkvol" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:59:33 -0500

    Thanks, Jake. That makes sense. I was thrown off by the fact that at
least some of the books Ive downloaded from Bookshare have a few blank
lines here and there. Based on your explanation, I assume that has to do
with the way K1000
handles the DAISY files.

Paula

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 1:22 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: following block quote question, please clarify
something for me?


> Hi Paula,
>
> This is a tricky question and somewhat of a techie concept, because it's
> different from how most people think of word processor documents. I'll try
> my best with an example.
>
> DAISY is a markup language, and as such it marks blocks of text as certain
> kinds of text. The most common of these is a paragraph. So, I'll repeat
this
> paragraph, this time with the markup as how it might appear in DAISY.
>
> <p id="sampleParagraph">DAISY is a markup language, and as such it marks
> blocks of text as certain kinds of text. The most common of these is a
> paragraph. So, I'll repeat this paragraph, this time with the markup as
how
> it might appear in DAISY.</p>
>
> Each paragraph is then rendered by the DAISY reader in the manner it
> chooses. It might choose to put a blank line, it might choose to indent
the
> paragraph, it may even do both. Internet Explorer with JAWS for example,
> simulates a blank line between paragraphs.
>
> So, as far as DAISY goes, blank lines are pretty irrelevant; all that
> matters is what the converter thinks of as a paragraph.
>
> I hope this answers your question, isn't too much detail, and isn't too
> geeky, smile.
>
> Jake
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paula and James Muysenberg" <outofsightlife@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Bkvol" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 1:05 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: following block quote question, please
clarify
> something for me?
>
>
> > Hi, Mayrie,
> >
> >    My understanding is that while the Bookshare tools will strip out
more
> > than one blank line, it does leave single blank lines. I just found some
> > single blank lines in one of the books I downloaded from Bookshare, but
> > it's
> > a book I downloaded a couple of years ago. Has something changed, or am
I
> > correct that single blank lines are not stripped?
> >
> > Paula
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:38 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: following block quote question, please
> > clarify
> > something for me?
> >
> >
> >> Hi Devorah,
> >>
> >>          You are remembering correctly that the lovely stripper will
> >> take out blank lines.  People seem not to be able to remember that,
> >> no matter how many times it is said.  Which, by the way, frustrates
> >> me, because people are giving advice that won't work, thinking they're
> > helping.
> >>
> >> Peace,
> >> Mayrie
> >>
> >> At 05:26 AM 4/12/2008, you wrote:
> >> >I like the idea of using HTML tag if it will work with DAISY.
> >> >What about Braille? What kind of tag is used for block quotes in
> >> >Braille?
> >> >Also, am I confused (not unusual) -- I thought that the Bookshare
wizard
> >> >removes blank lines when the validated book comes back for approval?
> >> >Isn't that why we don't leave blank lines between paragraphs, using
only
> >> >a hard return???
> >> >Or am I confused?
> >> >I have to write all this stuff down somewhere.
> >> >
> >> >Thank you everybody who responds to all my question,
> >> >
> >> >Devorah
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons
> >> >Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 5:26 AM
> >> >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: block quotes
> >> >
> >> >Hi all,
> >> >
> >> >You could use the HTML tag.  When you start a block quote, put
> >> ><blockquote>  on a single line and when you're done, put
</blockquote>
> >> >That may even help the DAISY creator because the main part of the text
> >> >is xml, which is a varient of HTML.  Maybe just a blank line will do,
> >> >and that's simple and effective.
> >> >
> >> >Ann P.
> >> >
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