Hi Nancy. I like this message and agree with you. I prefer earning my credits as well. As for your question, it makes a proofer's life easier if you remove the headers, but you don't have to do it. If you're proofing a book rather than scanning it, and you come across headers, it's better to remove those since, as someone pointed out, the stripper cannot always be relied upon to do that. For instance, with the book you're proofing now, the headers that were in it initially were all formatted differently for some reason. I was able to do a find an replace for some of them, but others had to be deleted manually because their spacing was totally different. I think that was just a glitch with the scanning software though, so it's not major though it was certainly annoying to be merrily reading along to come across headers every page or two. -Alyssa _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nancy Martin Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 12:19 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: finding books to proofread Hi everyone, Thanks for all your responses. I thought "reader one" was someone's handle. That's what I get for thinking. Now about submitting books. I'm in the process of scanning one. I should remove the headers and not rely on the stripper, right? Or does it make a better finished product if I leave them in? sorry for all these inquiries. I just want to do a good job. If we lose pride in our work, what's the use of doing it? That's why I can't see why jiffy proofers continue. I need credits too but want to earn mine. Guess it boils down to a quantity versus quality thing for them. go figure, Nancy Martin Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob <mailto:rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:15 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: finding books to proofread Hi Nancy. You ask some good questions. I'll take a crack in answering them. You said "What's a fake hold?" A fake hold is a hold for reader, or hold for reader1... . We are assuming that the jiffy proofers don't read this list and don't know about this. They will skip books with a hold on them, and those of us who know about it can grab them and do a more thorough job of proof reading them. You said "I noticed there are books waiting for checkout that have been there a long time. With all this about no books to proofread, I don't understand. Are there special problems with these books?" I'm not sure of problems, but you can look at a book's history by going to the information page for that book. Down near the bottom, there is a link to "view book history". I have been checking a book's history before checking it out. If the book seems to have page break problems (a problem which I detest), I'll probably not grab it. If the book has been grabbed by a jiffy proofer and Carrie has sent it back for more proofing, then I'll probably grab it. You said "Where is this infamous stripper? Are there other site tools to help me do a better job?" The "stripper" is a program that gets applied to a book once it has been proofread. Unfortunately, we can't see the results until the book gets into the collection. I don't know of any tools that bookshare provides (except the volunteer manual) to help us do a better job. Okay, hope this helps answer your questions. If not, ask away. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy <mailto:nancyam@xxxxxxxxxxx> Martin To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:59 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] finding books to proofread Hi everyone, I have a few questions based on reading these messages. What's a fake hold? I noticed there are books waiting for checkout that have been there a long time. With all this about no books to proofread, I don't understand. Are there special problems with these books? Where is this infamous stripper? Are there other site tools to help me do a better job? thanks, Nancy Martin Oklahoma