Hi Dave, Your comment on using all punctuation is interesting. I have gotten use to listening to books this way so that I don't miss stray chars and other little typos. Believe it or not, it is not any different once you start doing it and you get a better validation. Defend your choice to alternative medicine and food supliments. www.healthfreedomrights.com Katie Hill Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of talmage@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:30 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: fair, many errors but legible throughout Not really, the only time the validator needs to change the rating after uploading for approval, is if they disagree with the rating the Bookshare software gives the book. It may be necessary to upgrade a book if it contains many words the Bookshare software doesn't recognize, as in the case of many foreign language words, or it may also be necessary to downgrade a book if missing or incorrect words are numerous enough. The default rating of fair is only given when the book is first submitted. As someone else mentioned, the initial rating is quite subjective, as what is excellent to one person may be good or fair to another. I would also add that what may be excellent to a reader who only uses speech output, may not be excellent for someone reading the book in braille. Braille output is unforgiving with junk characters, whereas speech output may not read them depending on what characters they are. This is one reason that when validating a book with speech output, if you are also correcting the mistakes, you need to actively search for junk characters. I suppose if you are of a masochistic nature, when validating a book with speech, you could have it read all the characters including punctuation, but personally, this would also cause me to want to bang my head against the wall. Dave T At 12:07 AM 5/26/2007, you wrote: >Yes, I think it's really up to the validator to change >the rating after he/she validates it, whether he/she >does a lot to it or whether that isn't necessary >because the submitted copy is rreally Excellent. > >Cindy > >--- Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > >There is one fascet of this discussion that gets a > > bit lost > > >here. Bookshare defaults to the fair designation > > if the submitter > > >doesn't change it. Several of the new books are > > rated fair and have > > >no category or synopsis. That would indicate to me > > that the > > >submitter just filled in the mandatory fields. Our > > Christian > > >romance submitter is fond of doing this, and > > sometimes the text is > > >in nice shape after all. Since books don't go > > through the Bookshare > > >tools during submission, I take the quality ratings > > on step 1 with a > > >rather hefty grain of salt. I look for the name of > > the submitter > > >and groan if it is the "Bookshare volunteer" > > because then it really > > >is a game of Russian rulette. (sigh) > > > > > > "Don't let yesterday use up too much of today!" Will > > Rogers > > Monica Willyard, rhyami@xxxxxxxxx > > Add rhyami to your Skype if you'd like to chat. > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject > > line. To get a list of available commands, put the > > word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ _________Get >the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of >spyware protection. >http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a >list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.