Hi, Scott, You may want to consider leaving ellipses the way you find them, rather than taking out spaces. The reason I say this is that I've run into the opposite problem Jana mentioned. When I read a text file on my Braille Lite, using View in Grade 2 mode, ellipses are not translated properly unless the spaces are there. Since it sounds like various braille translators may handle ellipses differently, it might be best not to change them. Just a thought. Paula ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Blanks" <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:12 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipsis > Hey there Jana and Cindy, > > Thanks to both of you for your input. So, I plan to find and eliminate all > the spaces in any ellipsis I find from this point on. As has been > mentioned, Braille always has those three periods together, so I'll get rid > of them now in order to avoid any potential trouble. > > Thanks again, > Scott > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jana Jackson" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 4:00 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipsis > > > > Hi, Scott and Cindy! I've heard two schools of thought on this. <Smile> > > Basically, it doesn't seem to matter, one way or the other. However, just > > as an FYI, in Braille, it looks much better to eliminate the spaces, even > > though they are included in the print edition. That's the way they are > > translated. However, the Braille translation software doesn't always > > translate them correctly when the spaces are included. Sorry if this > > doesn't make sense... It's 3 A.M. my time! <Smile> Take care! > > > > Jana > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:37 AM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipsis > > > > > >> Scott, > >> > >> Technically, there should be a space between each of > >> the dots. If the ellipses comes at the end of a > >> complete sentence, the three spaced dots come after > >> the period. > >> > >> In some books there seem to be no dots, but that may > >> be because the font is small and they're there but it > >> just doesn't seem like it. In most books the spaces > >> are there. I just looked in one and the spaces are > >> there. > >> > >> Cindy > >> > >> > >> -- Scott Blanks <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I'm currently scanning a book which makes frequent > >>> use of the ellipsis, i.e. three periods. My > >>> question is simply this: how does an ellipsis appear > >>> in print? Is it three periods together, three > >>> periods with spaces between, or something else? In > >>> this novel, when the ellipsis appears, the Openbook > >>> program will put it one way in one instance, and a > >>> different way the next time it appears. > >>> > >>> Thanks for your assistance, > >>> Scott Blanks > >>> mailto:sblanks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> Adaptive Technology Services > >>> 629 Divisadero > >>> San Francisco, CA 94117 > >>> Phone: 415 409 6650 > >>> Toll free: 866 564 6650 > >>> Fax: 415 358 4726 > >>> www.adaptivetec.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __________________________________ > >> Do you Yahoo!? > >> Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > >> http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >