I prefer no spaces in the elipses. I was always taught to write them that way. I do it in print, too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 5:16 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipsis > O.K. Back to the drawing board. (grin). I guess this > is something else we should get a consensus on -- > which way the majority of Braille users prefer. (Maybe > alternating? Just kidding) > > Cindy > > -- Paula and James Muysenberg > <outofsightlife@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hi, Scott, > > > > You may want to consider leaving ellipses the > > way you find them, rather > > than taking out spaces. The reason I say this is > > that I've run into the > > opposite problem Jana mentioned. When I read a text > > file on my Braille Lite, > > using View in Grade 2 mode, ellipses are not > > translated properly unless the > > spaces are there. Since it sounds like various > > braille translators may > > handle ellipses differently, it might be best not to > > change them. > > > > Just a thought. Paula > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Scott Blanks" <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:12 AM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipsis > > > > > > > Hey there Jana and Cindy, > > > > > > Thanks to both of you for your input. So, I plan > > to find and eliminate > > all > > > the spaces in any ellipsis I find from this point > > on. As has been > > > mentioned, Braille always has those three periods > > together, so I'll get > > rid > > > of them now in order to avoid any potential > > trouble. > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jana Jackson" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 4:00 AM > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipsis > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Scott and Cindy! I've heard two schools of > > thought on this. <Smile> > > > > Basically, it doesn't seem to matter, one way or > > the other. However, > > just > > > > as an FYI, in Braille, it looks much better to > > eliminate the spaces, > > even > > > > though they are included in the print edition. > > That's the way they are > > > > translated. However, the Braille translation > > software doesn't always > > > > translate them correctly when the spaces are > > included. Sorry if this > > > > doesn't make sense... It's 3 A.M. my time! > > <Smile> Take care! > > > > > > > > Jana > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:37 AM > > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipsis > > > > > > > > > > > >> Scott, > > > >> > > > >> Technically, there should be a space between > > each of > > > >> the dots. If the ellipses comes at the end of a > > > >> complete sentence, the three spaced dots come > > after > > > >> the period. > > > >> > > > >> In some books there seem to be no dots, but > > that may > > > >> be because the font is small and they're there > > but it > > > >> just doesn't seem like it. In most books the > > spaces > > > >> are there. I just looked in one and the spaces > > are > > > >> there. > > > >> > > > >> Cindy > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- Scott Blanks <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hi all, > > > >>> > > > >>> I'm currently scanning a book which makes > > frequent > > > >>> use of the ellipsis, i.e. three periods. My > > > >>> question is simply this: how does an ellipsis > > appear > > > >>> in print? Is it three periods together, three > > > >>> periods with spaces between, or something > > else? In > > > >>> this novel, when the ellipsis appears, the > > Openbook > > > >>> program will put it one way in one instance, > > and a > > > >>> different way the next time it appears. > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks for your assistance, > > > >>> Scott Blanks > > > >>> mailto:sblanks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >>> Adaptive Technology Services > > > >>> 629 Divisadero > > > >>> San Francisco, CA 94117 > > > >>> Phone: 415 409 6650 > > > >>> Toll free: 866 564 6650 > > > >>> Fax: 415 358 4726 > > > >>> www.adaptivetec.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> __________________________________ > > > >> Do you Yahoo!? > > > >> Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced > > search. Learn more. > > > >> http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > >