[bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:11:30 -0700 (PDT)
hmmm. I don't think I've ever seen in a book an ellipsis followed immediately
by a period. A question mark, yes and aquote symbol. and a perios followed by
the ellipsis. Maybe I just haven'e been aware of it I'll have to look more
carefully
--- On Wed, 8/15/12, Tracy Carcione <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Tracy Carcione <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 8:07 AM
Thanks for clearing that up.
Tracy
> Hi Tracy,
>
> I'm sorry. Since the rules say that a fragment of a sentence should have
> the ellipsis be followed by the period you should format it like this:
> "Well, John ...."
>
> I'm sorry, you are right, I did neglect that option.
>
> Mayrie
>
>
>
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual
>
> Yes, I read that. I guess it is too vague for me. You gave examples of
> everything except the situation I have a question about. Should it be
> "Well, John ...." or "Well, John ... ."?
> I know how it should come out in braille, but I'm not sure how to format
> it
> so that the braille translator makes it happen.
> Tracy
>> Hi Tracy,
>>
>> This is from the later part of the information I posted. Does this
>> help, or is it too vague?
>>
>> An ellipsis and a period. Sometimes an ellipsis appears to be four
>> dots rather than three. This is because the ellipsis is either
>> preceded or followed by a period. Since the braille period is not the
>> same as the dots of an ellipsis, it must be determined which of the
>> four dots is the period.
>>
>> If the sentence is incomplete, does not contain a subject and a verb
>> and express a complete thought, then the ellipsis is taking the place
>> of missing words within the sentence--in which the period immediately
>> follows the ellipsis, just as it would a word. If a sentence is
>> gramatically complete, the first dot represents the period and the
>> ellipsis represents a following missing sentence or sentences. In this
>> case a blank cell (a space) is left between the period and the
>> following ellipsis.
>> Example:
>> As you can see, I have followed your career. ... As to my own ....
>> Well, you know the story.
>>
>> Mayrie
>>
>>
>> Mayrie
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tracy
>> Carcione
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:43 AM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual
>>
>> Mayrie, you left out what to do if the elipsis comes at the end of the
>> sentence, and there are 4 dots. "Well, John ...."
>> Is there a space after the elipsis in that case, or not?
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Hi Cindy,
>>>
>>> Here is how to handle the ellipsis.
>>>
>>> Formatting The Ellipsis
>>>
>>> The ellipsis should be punctuated as if it were a word. Examples:
>>> "Fools rush in ..."
>>>
>>> "... for they shall inherit the earth"
>>> "Breathe, Mellissa. In ... and out. In ...
>>> and out."
>>> An ellipsis and a period. Sometimes an ellipsis appears to be four
>>> dots rather than three. This is because the ellipsis is either
>>> preceded or followed by a period. Since the braille period is not the
>>> same as the dots of an ellipsis, it must be determined which of the
>>> four dots is the period.
>>>
>>> If the sentence is incomplete, does not contain a subject and a verb
>>> and express a complete thought, then the ellipsis is taking the place
>>> of missing words within the sentence--in which the period immediately
>>> follows the ellipsis, just as it would a word. If a sentence is
>>> gramatically complete, the first dot represents the period and the
>>> ellipsis represents a following missing sentence or sentences. In
>>> this case a blank cell (a space) is left between the period and the
>>> following ellipsis.
>>> Example:
>>> As you can see, I have followed your career. ... As to my own ....
>>> Well, you know the story.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mayrie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:18 PM
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual
>>>
>>>
>>> oh, dear; now I can't remember, and I can't find ellipses in my notes
>>> on my desktop. Are we now supposed to have no space before and after
>>> the ellipses?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 8/14/12, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofing manual
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 3:47 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Aidee,
>>>
>>> There will be very few changes to the content of the scanning and
>>> proofreading manual. Footnotes will be handled differently in
>>> future, and the ellipsis as well (it was misrepresented in the
>>> current manual), but there is no reason you can't use the current
>>> manual to learn.
>>>
>>> Happy proofreading.
>>>
>>> Mayrie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of aidee campa
>>> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 11:11 PM
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] proofing manual
>>>
>>> I wanted to start proofing soon, but I'm aware that Mayrie is still
>>> revising the proofing manual. Should I go by what the current one
>>> says or should I wait until the revised one is up? Thank you all for
>>> your help.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Aidee
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