[bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual
- From: aidee campa <aidee.campa@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:45:05 -0700
So, the reason ellipses don't always come out right in .brf files from
bookshare is due to the braille translator? What I mean by ellipses
not coming out right is that in braille there will be instead of the
symbol for ellipsis, just a dot 3, sometimes not separated from the
two words on either side of it. Or the symbol will be right but there
won't be any spaces between it and the words on either side of it.
I'm just curious, that's all. Thank you all for your help.
On 8/15/12, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Susan,
>
> Alisa's e-mail address is alisam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Mayrie
>
>
>
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Lumpkin
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:59 AM
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> That sure looks funny to me in braille, Mayrie. How do I reach Alysa?
> Thanks.
>
> Susan
>
>
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual
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> Hi Tracy,
>
> I'm sorry. Since the rules say that a fragment of a sentence should have
> the ellipsis be followed by the period you should format it like this:
> "Well, John ...."
>
> I'm sorry, you are right, I did neglect that option.
>
> Mayrie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:29 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual
>
> Yes, I read that. I guess it is too vague for me. You gave examples of
> everything except the situation I have a question about. Should it be
> "Well, John ...." or "Well, John ... ."?
> I know how it should come out in braille, but I'm not sure how to format it
> so that the braille translator makes it happen.
> Tracy
>> Hi Tracy,
>>
>> This is from the later part of the information I posted. Does this
>> help, or is it too vague?
>>
>> An ellipsis and a period. Sometimes an ellipsis appears to be four
>> dots rather than three. This is because the ellipsis is either
>> preceded or followed by a period. Since the braille period is not the
>> same as the dots of an ellipsis, it must be determined which of the
>> four dots is the period.
>>
>> If the sentence is incomplete, does not contain a subject and a verb
>> and express a complete thought, then the ellipsis is taking the place
>> of missing words within the sentence--in which the period immediately
>> follows the ellipsis, just as it would a word. If a sentence is
>> gramatically complete, the first dot represents the period and the
>> ellipsis represents a following missing sentence or sentences. In this
>> case a blank cell (a space) is left between the period and the
>> following ellipsis.
>> Example:
>> As you can see, I have followed your career. ... As to my own ....
>> Well, you know the story.
>>
>> Mayrie
>>
>>
>> Mayrie
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tracy
>> Carcione
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:43 AM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual
>>
>> Mayrie, you left out what to do if the elipsis comes at the end of the
>> sentence, and there are 4 dots. "Well, John ...."
>> Is there a space after the elipsis in that case, or not?
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Hi Cindy,
>>>
>>> Here is how to handle the ellipsis.
>>>
>>> Formatting The Ellipsis
>>>
>>> The ellipsis should be punctuated as if it were a word. Examples:
>>> "Fools rush in ..."
>>>
>>> "... for they shall inherit the earth"
>>> "Breathe, Mellissa. In ... and out. In ...
>>> and out."
>>> An ellipsis and a period. Sometimes an ellipsis appears to be four
>>> dots rather than three. This is because the ellipsis is either
>>> preceded or followed by a period. Since the braille period is not the
>>> same as the dots of an ellipsis, it must be determined which of the
>>> four dots is the period.
>>>
>>> If the sentence is incomplete, does not contain a subject and a verb
>>> and express a complete thought, then the ellipsis is taking the place
>>> of missing words within the sentence--in which the period immediately
>>> follows the ellipsis, just as it would a word. If a sentence is
>>> gramatically complete, the first dot represents the period and the
>>> ellipsis represents a following missing sentence or sentences. In
>>> this case a blank cell (a space) is left between the period and the
>>> following ellipsis.
>>> Example:
>>> As you can see, I have followed your career. ... As to my own ....
>>> Well, you know the story.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mayrie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:18 PM
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual
>>>
>>>
>>> oh, dear; now I can't remember, and I can't find ellipses in my notes
>>> on my desktop. Are we now supposed to have no space before and after
>>> the ellipses?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 8/14/12, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofing manual
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 3:47 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Aidee,
>>>
>>> There will be very few changes to the content of the scanning and
>>> proofreading manual. Footnotes will be handled differently in
>>> future, and the ellipsis as well (it was misrepresented in the
>>> current manual), but there is no reason you can't use the current
>>> manual to learn.
>>>
>>> Happy proofreading.
>>>
>>> Mayrie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of aidee campa
>>> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 11:11 PM
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] proofing manual
>>>
>>> I wanted to start proofing soon, but I'm aware that Mayrie is still
>>> revising the proofing manual. Should I go by what the current one
>>> says or should I wait until the revised one is up? Thank you all for
>>> your help.
>>>
>>> --
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