[bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual
- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:15:12 -0700
Hi Susan,
Alisa's e-mail address is alisam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Mayrie
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That sure looks funny to me in braille, Mayrie. How do I reach Alysa?
Thanks.
Susan
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Hi Tracy,
I'm sorry. Since the rules say that a fragment of a sentence should have
the ellipsis be followed by the period you should format it like this:
"Well, John ...."
I'm sorry, you are right, I did neglect that option.
Mayrie
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
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Yes, I read that. I guess it is too vague for me. You gave examples of
everything except the situation I have a question about. Should it be
"Well, John ...." or "Well, John ... ."?
I know how it should come out in braille, but I'm not sure how to format it
so that the braille translator makes it happen.
Tracy
> Hi Tracy,
>
> This is from the later part of the information I posted. Does this
> help, or is it too vague?
>
> An ellipsis and a period. Sometimes an ellipsis appears to be four
> dots rather than three. This is because the ellipsis is either
> preceded or followed by a period. Since the braille period is not the
> same as the dots of an ellipsis, it must be determined which of the
> four dots is the period.
>
> If the sentence is incomplete, does not contain a subject and a verb
> and express a complete thought, then the ellipsis is taking the place
> of missing words within the sentence--in which the period immediately
> follows the ellipsis, just as it would a word. If a sentence is
> gramatically complete, the first dot represents the period and the
> ellipsis represents a following missing sentence or sentences. In this
> case a blank cell (a space) is left between the period and the
> following ellipsis.
> Example:
> As you can see, I have followed your career. ... As to my own ....
> Well, you know the story.
>
> Mayrie
>
>
> Mayrie
>
>
>
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tracy
> Carcione
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:43 AM
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual
>
> Mayrie, you left out what to do if the elipsis comes at the end of the
> sentence, and there are 4 dots. "Well, John ...."
> Is there a space after the elipsis in that case, or not?
> Tracy
>
>> Hi Cindy,
>>
>> Here is how to handle the ellipsis.
>>
>> Formatting The Ellipsis
>>
>> The ellipsis should be punctuated as if it were a word. Examples:
>> "Fools rush in ..."
>>
>> "... for they shall inherit the earth"
>> "Breathe, Mellissa. In ... and out. In ...
>> and out."
>> An ellipsis and a period. Sometimes an ellipsis appears to be four
>> dots rather than three. This is because the ellipsis is either
>> preceded or followed by a period. Since the braille period is not the
>> same as the dots of an ellipsis, it must be determined which of the
>> four dots is the period.
>>
>> If the sentence is incomplete, does not contain a subject and a verb
>> and express a complete thought, then the ellipsis is taking the place
>> of missing words within the sentence--in which the period immediately
>> follows the ellipsis, just as it would a word. If a sentence is
>> gramatically complete, the first dot represents the period and the
>> ellipsis represents a following missing sentence or sentences. In
>> this case a blank cell (a space) is left between the period and the
>> following ellipsis.
>> Example:
>> As you can see, I have followed your career. ... As to my own ....
>> Well, you know the story.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mayrie
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:18 PM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual
>>
>>
>> oh, dear; now I can't remember, and I can't find ellipses in my notes
>> on my desktop. Are we now supposed to have no space before and after
>> the ellipses?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 8/14/12, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofing manual
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 3:47 AM
>>
>>
>> Hi Aidee,
>>
>> There will be very few changes to the content of the scanning and
>> proofreading manual. Footnotes will be handled differently in
>> future, and the ellipsis as well (it was misrepresented in the
>> current manual), but there is no reason you can't use the current
>> manual to learn.
>>
>> Happy proofreading.
>>
>> Mayrie
>>
>>
>>
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>> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 11:11 PM
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>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] proofing manual
>>
>> I wanted to start proofing soon, but I'm aware that Mayrie is still
>> revising the proofing manual. Should I go by what the current one
>> says or should I wait until the revised one is up? Thank you all for
>> your help.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Aidee
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