Hi Lori, You are correct about what the scanning and proofreading manual says. I'm sorry that this is causing so much trouble. We discovered that the rules for the current braille code are different from what they used to be after this was written. What I wrote last night is the current convention. So so sorry for your frustration! Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 8:57 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses Well, the following is from the proofreading chapter in the manual; I have to look it up every time I get a new book to proofread.: 4.2 B. 8. Standardize ellipses Back to: 4. Proofread a Book 1) Replace each "ellipsis character" with 3 periods 2) No spaces before nor after ellipses 3) Become familiar with Zoom 1) Replace each "ellipsis character" with 3 periods First go to the very beginning of the document by doing a: Control + Home To bring up the Find and Replace dialog, do a: Control + h In the Find box, type: ^0133 (That is: a caret, then the 4 digits. "^0133" is the code for an ellipsis in Word.) In the Replace box, type: ... (That is: exactly 3 periods) Click Replace All 2) No spaces before nor within ellipses If the following are not done, ellipses will not be represented properly in Braille: A. Make sure there are no spaces before the 3 periods. Not this: Eventually ... the cows came home. Instead, do this: Eventually... the cows came home. B. Make sure there are no spaces between the 3 periods. Not this (a space between the 1st and 2nd periods): Eventually. .. the cows came home. Nor this (a space between the 2nd and 3rd periods): Eventually.. . the cows came home. Instead, do this: Eventually... the cows came home. Lori C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia" <julia.kulak@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:43 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses > Hmmm, I thought it was better for Braille readers if the ellipsis was > right next to the word proceeding it, can someone clarify this? > Julia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:40 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses > > >> As I recall, we decided that it should be treated like a word. That is, >> if it is in the middle of a sentence it should have a space on both >> sides; if it is at the end of a sentence there should be no space before >> the period or other punctuation if there is no space between a word that >> might appear in a similar position and the punctuation. >> >> >> _ _ _ >> >> "Capitalism is war; socialism is peace." - Karl Liebnecht >> >> Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/rogerbailey81 >> >> >> The Militant: >> http://www.themilitant.com >> Pathfinder Press: >> http://www.pathfinderpress.com >> Granma International: >> http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Valerie Maples" <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:16 PM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses >> >> >> I thought we decided it was situation independent, but a space after was >> the most conventional unless other punctuation was involved. >> >> But I am tired, I am likely mistaken. LOL >> >> Valerie >> >> Please pray for and follow Nichole's recovery: >> >> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples >> >> On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Chela Robles wrote: >> >>> have a space on each side. >>> -- >>> "To me, music that breaks your heart is the music that stays with you >>> forever. It's one thing to be melancholy and one thing to be >>> sophisticated, but when you get the two of them together in a way people >>> can relate to, then I think you're on to something. 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