Thanks, Robert. Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Riddle" <captinlogic@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 3:49 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks Try shift f10 if you don't have an applications key ----- Original Message ----- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:47 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks > > Hi Mayrie, > > Well, I assume you are all coffeed up by now. <smile> Your explanation > was > fine, but I am wondering why you would go back to Word before submitting > your file. > > I don't think I have a contect key. I have a laptop, and there is nothing > on the right between my alt and control keys. So I may have to use your > method if I can't do what E. suggested with a right click combo. Does > Kurzweil put a .kes extension on the file when you store it under Kurzweil > Educational Systems? I see where you mean. > > Thanks, > > Sue S. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:11 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks > > > Hi Sue, > > You can save your file wherever you want to save it. Its location > doesn't matter. You just have Kurzweil open, and use its open feature in > the file menu to find and open your rtf file. Kurzweil can open rtf > documents just by finding them in Kurzweil's "open" dialogue, tabbing to > the > "ok" button and hitting enter on that button. > > I personally like to save books that I'm validating in a folder that > I call validations that I created in the Kurzweil Educational Systems > folder > that you will find in you're my Documents folder. But you can put them in > the books folder in that Kurzweil Educational Systems folder or anywhere > else on your hard drive that you want to put them. You just need to start > Kurzweil before trying to open a file with it. You can associate > particular > file types to be opened by particular programs, if you want to, but I > can't > remember how to do that, and I like not to have Kurzweil open rtf > documents > automatically when I hit enter on them. I do work with my rtf files in > Microsoft Word before submitting, so I prefer going the long way round to > open rtf files in Kurzweil. > > Sorry that was kind of rattly on. I shouldn't have tried to appear > intelligent, or even verbal before I'd had coffee. I have a bad habit of > not drinking my coffee soon enough. > > Please ask if I have just confused you more. As soon as I send this I'll > go > coffee up. Promise! > > Mayrie > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of siss52 > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 1:19 AM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks > > > Well, what I don't get is, how do you get it into Kurzweil without > changing > it to .kes? I mean, where do you tell your computer to save the file? > > Sue S. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 11:06 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks > > > Sue, I validate RTF books with Kurzweil all the time; I don't change them > to > KES and I have not had any problems that I am aware of. Jill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 7:45 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks > > >> >> <smiling> Well, yeah, Word sure is slow. Sometimes when I press enter >> to >> open a file in Word, it is soooo slow!!!!! >> >> So how does one go about valiidating a RTF file in Kurzweil? I mean, do >> you >> have to change the file to a .kes extension and then change it back? I >> am >> speaking of validating, where you download a RTF file. I'd love to get >> out >> of using Word if possible. Not only is it slow, but it pulls boners on >> you!!! <lol> >> >> Sue S. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 8:19 PM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks >> >> >> Hi Robert, >> >> You're right. Unfortunately, I do my work in Kurzweil 1000 because >> it is much less resource intensive on my computer. I think my computer >> is >> allergic to Word. Laugh. If there is a word more ponderous than >> sluggish, >> perhaps glacier-like, it would describe how well I can do things in Word. >> I >> use it as little as possible! But you are right. A macro would be >> faster. >> I just avoid Word like the plague, probably more than the plague as I >> think >> about avoiding Word actively and never think about the plague. Laugh. >> >> Shutting up. >> >> Mayrie >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Riddle >> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 5:49 PM >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks >> >> You should make a macro to do that. It'd make your life easier. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 7:30 PM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks >> >> >>> Hi Cindy, >>> >>> I guess since this is coming up twice now, I'll tell you how I deal >>> with those pesky line breaks where they don't belong, in the middle of >>> paragraphs. But first, to answer your direct question, yes, the >>> bookshare >>> tools will get rid of the extra space between words if there are two >>> spaces >>> instead of one. That's one thing the stripper is good for! >>> >>> I know that you, like I, prefer to read your books in order to >>> validate them. However, I will admit to being a bit lazy. Not that I >>> don't >>> want to do work, but if I can sit back and read without removing those >>> pesky >>> paragraph marks in the middle of paragraphs, I will and do. I use the >>> find >>> and replace dialogue to do this, which takes at most five minutes, then >>> the >>> grand majority of inappropriate paragraph marks are gone before I ever >>> start >>> reading. Here is what I do. Since I know that you personally use Word, >>> I'll tell you how I'd do it using word. >>> >>> I know I'm stating the obvious here, but paragraphs generally begin >>> with a capital letter or a quotation mark. I have never seen a >>> paragraph >>> begin with a lower case letter, so, what I look for are paragraphs >>> beginning >>> with lower case letters and join them to the word before them with a >>> space. >>> Does that make sense? >>> >>> In the find box I would type ^pa >>> In the replace box I would type a (that is hit the spacebar followed by >>> the >>> lower case letter a) >>> Then I replace all. >>> I do this with every lower case letter of the alphabet. >>> And yippee! Most of the extraneous line breaks are gone! >>> Now I can sit back and read without fixing each of those occurrences by >>> hand >>> as they appear in my reading! Much smoother reading! >>> >>> For those using Kurzweil 1000 the paragraph mark is represented in the >>> find >>> box by typing \n (that is backslash followed by the letter n) then you >>> type >>> the lower case letter you want to find. >>> >>> Have I made sense, or just confused the masses? I love making >>> things easier on myself and allowing myself, however I can to sit back >>> and >>> read with as few corrections during the reading process as possible. >>> >>> Okay, I'm stopping now. >>> >>> Mayrie >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy >>> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:44 PM >>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] eliminating line breaks >>> >>> It is what either submitter or validator needs to do. Depending on my >>> mood, >>> since I read while I validate I either delete each line break manually >>> or >>> blacken the paragraph, being careful to leave the break at the end of >>> the >>> paragraph, and replace with a space, so two words don't run together. >>> Sometimes this leaves two spaces between words instead of one, but then >>> generally, at the end, replace two spaces with one; does the bookshare >>> conversion do that automatically, perhaps? >>> >>> I've discovered, however, that with the first paragraph (each time one >>> comes >>> back to the file) one has to eliminate the lines spaces by using just >>> "replace," not "replace all," or it makes the whole document one >>> paragraph--and unfortunately a couple of times I validated books where >>> that >>> apparently had been done. After the first paragraph is done, "replace >>> all" >>> will work with each new paragraph and you're safe as long as you don't >>> hit >>> continue or whatever. >>> >>> Cindy >>> >>> >>> --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Lord of the Rose >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 4:15 PM >>>> Hi E. >>>> >>>> Guess what, I have a solution for this one too! I get rid >>>> of >>>> exactly what you're talking about in every book that I >>>> submit or validate >>>> because I find the extraneous line breaks annoying too! Do >>>> you want to hear >>>> it, or should I leave you alone? >>>> >>>> Mayrie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >>>> E. >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 2:30 PM >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Lord of the Rose >>>> >>>> The situation with Lord of the Rose does not involve >>>> multiple line >>>> breaks. it involves single line breaks as in >>>> >>>> He >>>> walked across >>>> the room. >>>> In the above sentence the only line break which ought to be >>>> there >>>> comes after the period. >>>> These linebreaks are obnoxious on a braille display. >>>> >>>> E. >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject >>>> line. 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