Try shift f10 if you don't have an applications key----- Original Message ----- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:47 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks
Hi Mayrie,Well, I assume you are all coffeed up by now. <smile> Your explanation wasfine, but I am wondering why you would go back to Word before submitting your file. I don't think I have a contect key. I have a laptop, and there is nothing on the right between my alt and control keys. So I may have to use your method if I can't do what E. suggested with a right click combo. Does Kurzweil put a .kes extension on the file when you store it under Kurzweil Educational Systems? I see where you mean. Thanks, Sue S.----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:11 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks Hi Sue, You can save your file wherever you want to save it. Its location doesn't matter. You just have Kurzweil open, and use its open feature in the file menu to find and open your rtf file. Kurzweil can open rtfdocuments just by finding them in Kurzweil's "open" dialogue, tabbing to the"ok" button and hitting enter on that button. I personally like to save books that I'm validating in a folder thatI call validations that I created in the Kurzweil Educational Systems folderthat you will find in you're my Documents folder. But you can put them in the books folder in that Kurzweil Educational Systems folder or anywhere else on your hard drive that you want to put them. You just need to startKurzweil before trying to open a file with it. You can associate particular file types to be opened by particular programs, if you want to, but I can't remember how to do that, and I like not to have Kurzweil open rtf documentsautomatically when I hit enter on them. I do work with my rtf files in Microsoft Word before submitting, so I prefer going the long way round to open rtf files in Kurzweil. Sorry that was kind of rattly on. I shouldn't have tried to appear intelligent, or even verbal before I'd had coffee. I have a bad habit of not drinking my coffee soon enough.Please ask if I have just confused you more. As soon as I send this I'll gocoffee up. Promise! Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of siss52 Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 1:19 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaksWell, what I don't get is, how do you get it into Kurzweil without changingit to .kes? I mean, where do you tell your computer to save the file? Sue S.----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 11:06 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaksSue, I validate RTF books with Kurzweil all the time; I don't change them toKES and I have not had any problems that I am aware of. Jill----- Original Message ----- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 7:45 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks<smiling> Well, yeah, Word sure is slow. Sometimes when I press enter toopen a file in Word, it is soooo slow!!!!! So how does one go about valiidating a RTF file in Kurzweil? I mean, do youhave to change the file to a .kes extension and then change it back? I amspeaking of validating, where you download a RTF file. I'd love to get out of using Word if possible. Not only is it slow, but it pulls boners on you!!! <lol> Sue S.----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 8:19 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks Hi Robert, You're right. Unfortunately, I do my work in Kurzweil 1000 becauseit is much less resource intensive on my computer. I think my computer is allergic to Word. Laugh. If there is a word more ponderous than sluggish,perhaps glacier-like, it would describe how well I can do things in Word. I use it as little as possible! But you are right. A macro would be faster. I just avoid Word like the plague, probably more than the plague as I think about avoiding Word actively and never think about the plague. Laugh. Shutting up. Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Riddle Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 5:49 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks You should make a macro to do that. It'd make your life easier.----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaksHi Cindy, I guess since this is coming up twice now, I'll tell you how I deal with those pesky line breaks where they don't belong, in the middle ofparagraphs. But first, to answer your direct question, yes, the booksharetools will get rid of the extra space between words if there are two spaces instead of one. That's one thing the stripper is good for! I know that you, like I, prefer to read your books in order to validate them. However, I will admit to being a bit lazy. Not that I don't want to do work, but if I can sit back and read without removing those pesky paragraph marks in the middle of paragraphs, I will and do. I use the find and replace dialogue to do this, which takes at most five minutes, then the grand majority of inappropriate paragraph marks are gone before I ever start reading. Here is what I do. Since I know that you personally use Word, I'll tell you how I'd do it using word. I know I'm stating the obvious here, but paragraphs generally beginwith a capital letter or a quotation mark. I have never seen a paragraphbegin with a lower case letter, so, what I look for are paragraphs beginning with lower case letters and join them to the word before them with a space. Does that make sense? In the find box I would type ^pa In the replace box I would type a (that is hit the spacebar followed by the lower case letter a) Then I replace all. I do this with every lower case letter of the alphabet. And yippee! Most of the extraneous line breaks are gone! Now I can sit back and read without fixing each of those occurrences by hand as they appear in my reading! Much smoother reading! For those using Kurzweil 1000 the paragraph mark is represented in the find box by typing \n (that is backslash followed by the letter n) then you type the lower case letter you want to find. Have I made sense, or just confused the masses? I love making things easier on myself and allowing myself, however I can to sit back and read with as few corrections during the reading process as possible. Okay, I'm stopping now. Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:44 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] eliminating line breaks It is what either submitter or validator needs to do. Depending on my mood,since I read while I validate I either delete each line break manually or blacken the paragraph, being careful to leave the break at the end of theparagraph, and replace with a space, so two words don't run together. Sometimes this leaves two spaces between words instead of one, but then generally, at the end, replace two spaces with one; does the bookshare conversion do that automatically, perhaps? I've discovered, however, that with the first paragraph (each time one comes back to the file) one has to eliminate the lines spaces by using just "replace," not "replace all," or it makes the whole document one paragraph--and unfortunately a couple of times I validated books where that apparently had been done. After the first paragraph is done, "replace all" will work with each new paragraph and you're safe as long as you don't hit continue or whatever. Cindy --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Lord of the Rose To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 4:15 PM Hi E. Guess what, I have a solution for this one too! I get rid of exactly what you're talking about in every book that I submit or validate because I find the extraneous line breaks annoying too! Do you want to hear it, or should I leave you alone? Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 2:30 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Lord of the Rose The situation with Lord of the Rose does not involve multiple line breaks. it involves single line breaks as in He walked across the room. In the above sentence the only line break which ought to be there comes after the period. These linebreaks are obnoxious on a braille display. E. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. 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