[bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks

  • From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 21:06:35 -0700

Sue, I validate RTF books with Kurzweil all the time; I don't change them to KES and I have not had any problems that I am aware of. Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> 

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Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 7:45 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks




<smiling>  Well, yeah, Word sure is slow.  Sometimes when I press enter to
open a file in Word, it is soooo slow!!!!!
So how does one go about valiidating a RTF file in Kurzweil? I mean, do you 
have to change the file to a .kes extension and then change it back?  I am
speaking of validating, where you download a RTF file. I'd love to get out 
of using Word if possible.  Not only is it slow, but it pulls boners on
you!!!  <lol>

Sue S.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 8:19 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks


Hi Robert,

You're right.  Unfortunately, I do my work in Kurzweil 1000 because
it is much less resource intensive on my computer.  I think my computer is
allergic to Word. Laugh.  If there is a word more ponderous than sluggish,
perhaps glacier-like, it would describe how well I can do things in Word. I use it as little as possible! But you are right. A macro would be faster. I just avoid Word like the plague, probably more than the plague as I think 
about avoiding Word actively and never think about the plague. Laugh.

Shutting up.

Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Riddle
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 5:49 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks

You should make a macro to do that. It'd make your life easier.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 7:30 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks



Hi Cindy,

I guess since this is coming up twice now, I'll tell you how I deal
with those pesky line breaks where they don't belong, in the middle of
paragraphs. But first, to answer your direct question, yes, the bookshare
tools will get rid of the extra space between words if there are two
spaces
instead of one.  That's one thing the stripper is good for!

I know that you, like I, prefer to read your books in order to
validate them.  However, I will admit to being a bit lazy.  Not that I
don't
want to do work, but if I can sit back and read without removing those
pesky
paragraph marks in the middle of paragraphs, I will and do.  I use the
find
and replace dialogue to do this, which takes at most five minutes, then
the
grand majority of inappropriate paragraph marks are gone before I ever
start
reading.  Here is what I do.  Since I know that you personally use Word,
I'll tell you how I'd do it using word.

I know I'm stating the obvious here, but paragraphs generally begin
with a capital letter or a quotation mark.  I have never seen a paragraph
begin with a lower case letter, so, what I look for are paragraphs
beginning
with lower case letters and join them to the word before them with a
space.
Does that make sense?

In the find box I would type ^pa
In the replace box I would type  a (that is hit the spacebar followed by
the
lower case letter a)
Then I replace all.
I do this with every lower case letter of the alphabet.
And yippee!  Most of the extraneous line breaks are gone!
Now I can sit back and read without fixing each of those occurrences by
hand
as they appear in my reading! Much smoother reading!

For those using Kurzweil 1000 the paragraph mark is represented in the
find
box by typing \n (that is backslash followed by the letter n) then you
type
the lower case letter you want to find.

Have I made sense, or just confused the masses?  I love making
things easier on myself and allowing myself, however I can to sit back and 
read with as few corrections during the reading process as possible.

Okay, I'm stopping now.

Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:44 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] eliminating line breaks

It is what either submitter or validator needs to do. Depending on my
mood,
since I read while I validate I either delete each line break manually or
blacken the paragraph, being careful to leave the break at the end of the
paragraph, and replace with a space, so two words don't run together.
Sometimes this leaves two spaces between words instead of one, but then
generally, at the end, replace two spaces with one; does the bookshare
conversion do that automatically, perhaps?

I've discovered, however, that with the first paragraph (each time one
comes
back to the file) one has to eliminate the lines spaces by using just
"replace," not "replace all," or it makes the whole document one
paragraph--and unfortunately a couple of times I validated books where
that
apparently had been done. After the first paragraph is done, "replace all" will work with each new paragraph and you're safe as long as you don't hit 
continue or whatever.

Cindy


--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Lord of the Rose
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 4:15 PM
Hi E.

Guess what, I have a solution for this one too!  I get rid
of
exactly what you're talking about in every book that I
submit or validate
because I find the extraneous line breaks annoying too! Do
you want to hear
it, or should I leave you alone?

Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
E.
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 2:30 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Lord of the Rose

The situation with Lord of the Rose does not involve
multiple line
breaks. it involves single line breaks as in

He
walked across
the room.
In the above sentence the only line break which ought to be
there
comes after the period.
These linebreaks are obnoxious on a braille display.

E.

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