[bksvol-discuss] Re: double column formatting
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:48:57 -0800 (PST)
Thnks, Tom. Do you meant to go to Custom Paper size? I
can't change the length of legal. I did try to set
length using Custom paper size but I couldn't get it
to stay. I'll try again the next time I need more page
length.
Cindy
--- tom hawkins <tjhawk1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Just go to page setup, go to paper size and
> select legal and increase
> page length to twenty inches. If Word complains tell
> it to ignore the margin
> problem. HTH Tom
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:14 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double column
> formatting
>
>
> > Those extra page breaks Word puts in are not hard
> page breaks, but only
> > "soft" page breaks. They will not show up in the
> rtf file submitted to
> > Bookshare. There is a method that Tom Hawkins - I
> believe - posted here
> > about how to lengthen Word's pages to prevent
> those soft page breaks, but
> > I'll have to look for it. But anyway, they are
> not going to show up in
> > the Bookshare file.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:17 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double column
> formatting
> >
> >
> >> Dear Pratik,
> >>
> >> Your method sounds practical if the page isn't
> too long, but on crowded,
> >> long pages, even when I adjust page length to
> make it as long as possible
> >> to accommodate all of the information, Word puts
> in its own page breaks
> >> and what would I do with those? My method does
> make extra pages, but the
> >> numbers still conform to the correct print pages
> with the a and b making
> >> it possible for page breaks to appear when I
> expect them.
> >>
> >> Those extra page breaks inserted by Microsoft
> word unnerve me. If anyone
> >> can explain how I can make these more than double
> long pages on a single
> >> page without those extra breaks, I'll abandon my
> current method in a
> >> heartbeat.
> >>
> >> Always with love,
> >>
> >> Lissi
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:35 AM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double column
> formatting
> >>
> >>
> >>> Lissi,
> >>>
> >>> The trouble with this method, especially when
> submitting a book, is that
> >>> you
> >>> then end up having more pages in a book than
> warranted. Unless you only
> >>> do
> >>> this for your personal use, you should follow a
> slightly modified method
> >>> of
> >>> just putting the second column at the bottom of
> the first column and let
> >>> the
> >>> page continue.
> >>>
> >>> Pratik
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Estelnalissi
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:13 PM
> >>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] double column
> formatting
> >>>
> >>> Dear Bookshare Volunteers,
> >>>
> >>> My solution for dealing with indices and pages
> with long double columns
> >>> is
> >>> to put each column on a new page and to label
> the pages a and b. If page
> >>> 364
> >>>
> >>> is a glossary with 2 columns I label the page
> with the first column 364a
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>> at the end of that column put in a page break. I
> label the next page
> >>> 364b
> >>> and then put in the second column flush with the
> left margin as I did
> >>> the
> >>> first. That way, I don't get overlong pages and
> numerically the pages
> >>> remain
> >>>
> >>> true to the text and best of all, I don't have
> to worry about how to
> >>> format
> >>> the second column. When I've tried putting the 2
> columns in a table,
> >>> navigating as I validate is clumsy because I
> really don't know how to
> >>> make
> >>> the cursor move between columns.
> >>>
> >>> My solution is as low tech as it gets with
> Microsoft word but it gets me
> >>> through those long academic appendices, letting
> me concentrate on the
> >>> accuracy of the content more than formatting.
> From my point of view as a
> >>> braille Bookshare reader as well as a validator,
> this method is
> >>> uncomplicated, and easy to negotiate in a brf
> file.
> >>>
> >>> Cindy, if I get caught up enough in my reading
> and validating, I'll let
> >>> you
> >>> know how your columns appear in the braille file
> of 100 Women who Shaped
> >>> World History, but even if they're scrambled,
> I'm sure the text will be
> >>> terrific and pleasant, informative, reading.
> >>>
> >>> The double columned contents of, The Devil and
> the Giro, which I
> >>> recently
> >>> finished validating, appeared in a table, and
> out of curiosity, I left
> >>> it
> >>> that way. I'll be curious to see if the tools
> morphed the table in to
> >>> some
> >>> different arrangement. There again, if the
> contents are muddled, the
> >>> stories
> >>>
> >>> will still be in tact.
> >>>
> >>> I hope any of you who have a different approach
> for formatting double
> >>> columns or who have read books in the collection
> which have them will
> >>> tell
> >>> us what you do or how the columns look to you as
> braille or audio
> >>> readers.
> >>>
> >>> Always with love,
> >>>
> >>> Lissi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:32 AM
> >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] columns question
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I know how to create columns on page using
> Word. Are
> >>>> they retained when bookshare converts the
> books? When
> >>>> viewing the page in Page Layout the page
> appears in
> >>>> two columns, as it should, but only as one long
> column
> >>>> with the continuous section break in the other
> View
> >>>> options.
> >>>>
> >>>> A couple of years ago when I had to create
> columns for
> >>>> a Table of Contents to Fit on a page, and some
> pages,
> >>>> I did it using tabs, so the book must look
> awful. I
> >>>> didn't know tabs got erased. I could redo the
> book
> >>>> with the columns that the book itself had if
> columns
> >>>> are retained.
> >>>>
> >>>> Has anyone downloaded 100 Women Who Shaped
> World
> >>>> History from the collection? It's a wonderful
> >>>> reference book for both children and adults.
> Does it
> >>>> need reformatting when I get the chance?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cindy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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