[bksvol-discuss] Re: copyright validation
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:03:49 -0700 (PDT)
Kaitlyn,
I think that is all that you need. I'd send it back to
Gustavo with a note pointing that out and asking what
else is needed--or to support@xxxxxxxxxxxx
I just received my first-ever rejection (other than
two for duplicates of something that had been
simultaneously submitted by schools). There was no
reason given. This was a book that originally someone
else had submitted and I had validated and it had
disappeared, so the original submitter (Amber maybe?)
said I should go ahead and submit it. I submitted it
and downloaded it and approved it myself, so I know it
had page breaks and page numbers and few if any
errors. The only reason I could imagine that it was
rejected was because the copyright was the publisher.
The book was comprised of parts taken from two earlier
books colpyrighted by the author but published by the
same publisher. When I got the rejection, I checked
the government copyright office and, although this
particular book (The World's Best True Ghost Stories)
wasn't there, five books with the copyright claimant
as the publisher were. I've sent my book file to
support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx think that's where it said to
send if I had complaints of questions--and we'll see
what happens.
One thing I didn't understand--it said the book was
submitted by a bookshare volunteer. I checked my
profile to see if I hadn't permitted my name to be
shown, and everywhere it said I had, so I don't know
why it said bookshare volunteer. I checked another of
the books I submitted and it had my name. Oh, well.
Cindy
--- Kaitlyn Hill <Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello Cindy,
>
> ON this one the copyright information is as clear as
> a bell on the second
> page.
>
> DREAM HEALER
> Copyright 2003 by DreamHealer.com
> All rights reserved under International and
> Pan-American Copyright
> Conventions. Published in 2003 by DreamHealer.com of
> Canada.
> Canadian Cataloging in Publication Data ISBN: ISBN
> 0-9732748-0-8
>
> Adam, 2003, DreamHealer First Printing - April 2003
> Printed and bound in
> Canada. Second Printing - November 2003 Printed and
> bound in the United
> States. All rights reserved.
> No part of this publication may be reproduced,
> stored in an electronic
> database or transmitted in any form by any means,
> electronic, photocopying,
> recording or otherwise, without the prior written
> permission of the
> copyright holder.
> Requests for permission should be sent to:
> info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Additional copies can be purchased at:
> www.dreamhealer.com
> Distributed by:
>
> Hampton Roads Publishing Company 1125 Stoney Ridge
> Road Charlottesville, VA
> 22902 800-766-8009
>
> www.hrpub.com
> The information contained in this book is not
> intended to be medical
> information. See your physician if you have a
> medical condition.
> Cover design, illustrations and editing by Rachel
> Orr.
>
> Hmmmm:)
>
> Oh well :) I will need to do some searching to see
> what else I can find.
>
>
> Kaitlyn
> Healing Practitioner
> "The cost of a thing is the amount of what I call
> life, which is required to
> be exchanged for it immediately or in the long run."
> Henry Thoreau
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Cindy
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:25 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: copyright validation
>
> Kaitlyn,
>
> I don't think, if the title page info is clear, that
> further verification is needed. I suspect that
> Gustavo
> checks the scanned and validated copyright page and
> only sends the book back if the information is
> missing and/or is wrong. A couple of times when I've
> had a question, e.g., the book I'm working on is a
> compilation of two books both with earlier copyright
> dates, I've written to ask him before uploading the
> book. But I think some people don't find the
> copyright info, either because it didn't scan well,
> or
> they don't recognize the symbol--which seems rarely
> to scan well.
>
> Cindy
>
> --- Kaitlyn Hill <Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Oh, the devil had one other thing he wanted me to
> > bring to the list....:)
> >
> > If there is a clear copyright in the book it seems
> > like a lot of work for a
> > validater to sometimes do a multiple site search
> > just to find a second case
> > of the copyright. If this has to be done then this
> > should be put in the
> > official BS guidelines.
> >
> > Kaitlyn
> > Healing Practitioner
> > "The cost of a thing is the amount of what I call
> > life, which is required to
> > be exchanged for it immediately or in the long
> run."
> > Henry Thoreau
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of siss52
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:07 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: copyright validation
>
> >
> >
> > I have been wondering if it would help Gustavo to
> > feel more comfortable if,
> > when a validator has verified the copyright
> holder,
> > he/she would make a note
> > of this in the place where it says, "Comments,
> Any
> > comments about this
> > book?" Then he should know it has been
> > double-checked.
> >
> > Sue S.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 5:50 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: copyright validation
> >
> >
> > > actually I have had several books where the
> > publisher held the copyright,
> > > approved no questions asked.
> > >
> > > So.... smile.
> > >
> > > Actually a lot of children's books are
> copyrighted
> > by the publisher.
> > >
> > > Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
> > > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> > > Graduate Advisory Council
> > > www.guidedogs.com
> > >
> > > The vision must be followed by the venture. It
> is
> > not enough to
> > > stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs.
> > >
> > > -- Vance Havner
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gerald Hovas" <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:07 PM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: copyright
> validation
> > >
> > >
> > > Sarah,
> > >
> > > Here is the copyright information for The Lord
> of
> > the Silent. The reason
> > > you didn't find it in the U.S. Copyright
> Office's
> > database is because
> > > someone misspelled silent. The l and i are
> > transposed.
> > >
> > > According to their records, the copyright holder
> > is MPM Manor, Inc., and
> > the
> > > copyright date is 2001.
> > >
> > > This message should be proof enough for Gustavo,
> > but be sure to include
> > the
> > > record below from the U.S. Copyright Office.
> > >
> > > Gerald
> > >
> > > 1. Registration Number:
> > >
> > > TX-5-268-153
> > > Title:
> > >
> > > Lord of the slient / aElizabeth Peters.
> > > Edition:
> > >
> > > 1st ed.
> > > Imprint:
> > >
> > > New York : HarperCollinsPublishers, c2001.
> > > Description:
> > >
> > > 404 p.
> > > Claimant:
> > >
> > > MPM Manor, Inc.
> > > Created:
> > >
> > > 2000
> > > Published:
> > >
> > > 19Apr01
> > > Registered:
> > >
> > > 25May01
> > > Special Codes:
> > >
> > > 1/B/L
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of Sarah Van
> > > Oosterwijck
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 2:48 PM
> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: copyright
> validation
> > >
> > >
> > > Grrr. I am so sick of copyright questions. I am
> > also sick of not finding
> > > entries for the books I submit in the U.S.
> > Copyright Office records. The
> > > records are woefully incomplete.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is what I did find, and it sure convinces
> me,
> > but I don't know how
> > > best to convey the information to Gustavo. The
> > book Lord of the Silent
> > only
> > > shows a copyright record for the recorded
> > addition, but that proves that a
> > > book with that title was written by Elizabeth
> > Peters in 2001. The
> > copyright
> > > is different from what is in the printed book,
> > though, which is perfectly
> > > normal. In order to prove that MPM Manor, Inc.
> is
> > a copyright holder of
> > > many of her books I looked for records with MPM
> > Manor, Inc. as the
> > > claimant. I found ten records. The names listed
> > for authors of those books
> > > seemed all to be pseudonyms of the same author
> and
> > Elizabeth Peters is one
> > > of the names she uses. I think that combined
> with
> > the fact that the same
> > > copyright information appears on the submit form
> > and in the book itself
> > > should be enough to get it accepted.
> > >
> > > Go ahead and copy my message into the comment
> > field if you think it will
> > > help.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sarah Van Oosterwijck
> > > Assistive Technology Trainer
> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 6:55 AM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] copyright validation
> > >
> > >
> > > >I notice that Lord of the Silent is back on
> step
> > 2 and so is The Abortion
> > > >Myth. Both ask that copyright be validated. I
> > kept that note about The
> > > >Abortion Myth checking its copyright. Have no
> > idea about what is going
> > on
> > > >with copyright issue for Lord of the Silent.
> > Could someone find out?
> > > >Seemed fine to me when I uploaded it after
> > validating. I will send
> > > >Gustavo a note about The Myth ... later today.
> > > >
> > > > E.
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