[bksvol-discuss] Re: copyright validation
- From: "Gerald Hovas" <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:55:40 -0500
Certainly it helps Gustavo if you mention that the copyright's been verified
in the comments field of the form.
I do that every time I submit or validate a book. I also tell him if I
verified it through the U.S. Copyright Office's website. Or if it's not
there, and I have the book because I'm the submitter, I let him know that my
wife verified it by referring to the book. Mentioning the method you used
to verify the copyright in your comments adds credibility to your statement
and provides Gustavo an easy way to verify it for himself if you found the
confirmation through the internet.
Simply stating that you've verified the copyright may not make much
difference since Gustavo needs to have some confidence that you know what
you're doing. For example, several volunteers have talked about getting to
know volunteer's strengths and weaknesses based on their familiarity with a
given volunteer's work. Gustavo, of course, becomes familiar with different
volunteer's work over a period of time as well, and he's less likely to have
confidence in what you say in your comments if you don't give details, if
you do a sloppy job in other aspects of the submitting or validating, or if
you've gotten the copyright information wrong in the past. That's possibly
why some volunteers have their copyright information questioned even when
it's right. Gustavo is either not familiar with their work, or, in some
cases, is all too familiar with it.
Remember, too, that Bookshare has a legal responsibility by the Chafee
amendment to the copyright law to include the copyright holder and copyright
date in all books they distribute. So Gustavo has a responsibility to make
sure that information is accurate when he approves a book for the
collection. Bookshare's commitment to make sure the information is accurate
is one thing that keeps Bookshare in good standing with publishers. And, if
you don't believe the publishers have an interest in Bookshare, read the
information on Bookshare's website about why distributing books over the
internet is legal. It mentions that the publishers helped sponser the
Chafee amendment when the amendment was proposed to Congress.
Gerald
-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of siss52
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 9:07 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: copyright validation
I have been wondering if it would help Gustavo to feel more comfortable if,
when a validator has verified the copyright holder, he/she would make a note
of this in the place where it says, "Comments, Any comments about this
book?" Then he should know it has been double-checked.
Sue S.
----- Original Message -----
From: <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 5:50 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: copyright validation
> actually I have had several books where the publisher held the copyright,
> approved no questions asked.
>
> So.... smile.
>
> Actually a lot of children's books are copyrighted by the publisher.
>
> Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
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>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerald Hovas" <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:07 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: copyright validation
>
>
> Sarah,
>
> Here is the copyright information for The Lord of the Silent. The reason
> you didn't find it in the U.S. Copyright Office's database is because
> someone misspelled silent. The l and i are transposed.
>
> According to their records, the copyright holder is MPM Manor, Inc., and
the
> copyright date is 2001.
>
> This message should be proof enough for Gustavo, but be sure to include
the
> record below from the U.S. Copyright Office.
>
> Gerald
>
> 1. Registration Number:
>
> TX-5-268-153
> Title:
>
> Lord of the slient / aElizabeth Peters.
> Edition:
>
> 1st ed.
> Imprint:
>
> New York : HarperCollinsPublishers, c2001.
> Description:
>
> 404 p.
> Claimant:
>
> MPM Manor, Inc.
> Created:
>
> 2000
> Published:
>
> 19Apr01
> Registered:
>
> 25May01
> Special Codes:
>
> 1/B/L
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Sarah Van
> Oosterwijck
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 2:48 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: copyright validation
>
>
> Grrr. I am so sick of copyright questions. I am also sick of not finding
> entries for the books I submit in the U.S. Copyright Office records. The
> records are woefully incomplete.
>
>
>
> This is what I did find, and it sure convinces me, but I don't know how
> best to convey the information to Gustavo. The book Lord of the Silent
only
> shows a copyright record for the recorded addition, but that proves that a
> book with that title was written by Elizabeth Peters in 2001. The
copyright
> is different from what is in the printed book, though, which is perfectly
> normal. In order to prove that MPM Manor, Inc. is a copyright holder of
> many of her books I looked for records with MPM Manor, Inc. as the
> claimant. I found ten records. The names listed for authors of those books
> seemed all to be pseudonyms of the same author and Elizabeth Peters is one
> of the names she uses. I think that combined with the fact that the same
> copyright information appears on the submit form and in the book itself
> should be enough to get it accepted.
>
> Go ahead and copy my message into the comment field if you think it will
> help.
>
>
>
> Sarah Van Oosterwijck
> Assistive Technology Trainer
> http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 6:55 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] copyright validation
>
>
> >I notice that Lord of the Silent is back on step 2 and so is The Abortion
> >Myth. Both ask that copyright be validated. I kept that note about The
> >Abortion Myth checking its copyright. Have no idea about what is going
on
> >with copyright issue for Lord of the Silent. Could someone find out?
> >Seemed fine to me when I uploaded it after validating. I will send
> >Gustavo a note about The Myth ... later today.
> >
> > E.
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