My word program has that option, too, and I'm using it, but since apparently bookshare deletes tabs and spaces, one has to find a way to "translate" the table into text that makes sense. If only tabs could be retained. And I really hate to think of what the Chinese poetry or philosophy books I validated several years ago look like. I learned a lot from working on them, but from what I've learned since the spacing won't have been kept. I can't remember the titles, either. Cindy --- Katie Hill <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > HI Cindy, > > Ye, Kurzweil has an option to translate a table to > text option and I have > done it before. > > I have found, in general, that a scanning and > recognition setting may work > well for 99 percent of the pages in a book, but you > will find some you have > to change the settings. > > > Have an outstanding day and remember... Every day is > a good day for someone. > Make it be you. > > Katie Hill > kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 503-777-7155 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Grandma Cindy > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:06 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Industrial Ethernet > released back into the > download pool > > Sometimes you can "translate" a table or chart into > explicable text. Or you can just put "illustrative > Chart" or "Table" on the page. > > Cindy > > --- Katie Hill <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > IF you are going to work on it let me know. > > Sometimes if you play with > > tables in the scanning process they can be > improved. > > I did a scan but didn't > > take a lot of time to scan and rescan some pages > in > > that book. > > > > I am working on a book now by David Korten. Even > > though most pages are > > scanning in at between 99.5 and 99.8 there are > those > > that are getting a 70 > > to 80 rating. I am having to play with settings to > > get them to scan and read > > correctly. > > > > Just let me know and you can mail off list. > > > > Have an outstanding day and remember... Every day > is > > a good day for someone. > > Make it be you. > > > > Katie Hill > > kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > 503-777-7155 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of John Moore > > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:11 AM > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Industrial Ethernet > > released back into the > > download pool > > > > I've got the book now. Hope I can get it > published. > > > > On 2/3/07, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > Hi Katie, > > > > > > I did find it interesting. However, the biggest > > problem I had was that > > > there are so many tables and they are laid out > in > > such a way that it is > > very > > > hard to interpret with Jaws. I just feel that > it > > might be more fruitful > > for > > > one of our sighted volunteers to take a whack > and > > see how it goes. There > > > was some misspellings too but the tables were > the > > big problem. > > > > > > I'm not sure a rescan will really help all that > > much since the character > > > recognition seemed to work fine. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Katie Hill" <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:54 PM > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Industrial > Ethernet > > released back into the > > > download pool > > > > > > > > > > HI Dan, > > > > > > > > I have not had a chance to read through that > > book yet. A few weeks ago I > > > > submitted a number of books I had here just to > > get them on the site. IF > > > > you > > > > feel it needs a rescan I would be happy to do > it > > because I have the book > > > > here still. I scanned that one not long after > I > > started using my > > Opticbook > > > > and have gotten better at using this scanner. > > Just let me know if it is > > > > something you are interested in reading and > > validating and I will scan > > it > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have an outstanding day and remember... Every > > day is a good day for > > > > someone. > > > > Make it be you. > > > > > > > > Katie Hill > > > > kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > 503-777-7155 > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > > Behalf Of Dan Beaver > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:12 AM > > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Industrial > > Ethernet released back into the > > > > download pool > > > > > > > > The book Katie is speaking about is the same > > file that I released. NOt > > > > sure > > > > > > > > where John's text came from. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Katie Hill" <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 7:08 PM > > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Industrial > > Ethernet released back into the > > > > download pool > > > > > > > > > > > >> HI John, > > > >> > > > >> Here are the first two pages of that book. > > Unless someone uploaded > > > >> another > > > >> book, with the same title, the author are > > Perry S. Marshall and John > > S. > > > >> Rinaldi. I am not sure who the book by > Kenneth > > E. Hagin (it's Hagen) > > is. > > > >> > > > >> Maybe Jake or Gerald can weigh in on this. I > > will assume from what the > > > >> first > > > >> two pages of this book read the copyright > > holder is Perry S. Marshall. > > > >> and > > > >> the copyright date is 2005. > > > >> > > > >> Here are the first two pages of the book I > > uploaded. > > > >> > > > >> Industrial Ethernet > > > >> > > > >> 2nd Edition > > > >> > > > >> How to Plan, Install, and Maintain > > > >> TCP/IP Ethernet Networks: The Basic > > > >> Reference Guide for Automation and > > > >> Process Control Engineers > > > >> > > > >> By Perry S. Marshall > > > >> and John S. Rinaldi > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Copyright C 2005 > > > >> ISA-The Instrumentation, Systems, and > > Automation Society > > > >> > > > >> All rights reserved. > > > >> Printed in the United States of America. > > > >> 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 > > > >> > > > >> ISBN-10:1-55617-892-1 > > > >> ISBN-13: 978-1-55617-892-4 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> No part of this work may be reproduced, > stored > > in a retrieval system, > > or > > > >> transmitted in > > > >> any form or by any means, electronic, > > mechanical, photocopying, > > recording > > > >> or otherwise, > > > >> without the prior written permission of the > > publisher. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ISA > > > >> 67 Alexander Drive > > > >> P.O. Box 12277 > > > >> Research Triangle Park, > > > >> www.isa.org > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Library of Congress Cataloging-in-Publication > > Data > > > >> Marshall, Perry S. > > > >> Industrial ethernet :how to plan, install, > and > > maintain TCP/IP ethernet > > > >> networks :the basic reference guide for > > automation and process control > > > >> engineers / by Perry S. Marshall and John S. > > Rinaldi.- 2nd ed. p. cm. > > > >> Includes index. > > > >> ISBN 1-55617-892-1 (pbk.) > > > >> 1. Ethernet (Local area network system) I. > > Rinaldi, John S. II. Tide. > > > >> TK5105.8.E83M369 2004 > > > >> 004.6'8-dc22 > > > >> 2004019923 Notice > > > >> The information presented in this publication > > is for the general > > > >> education > > > >> of the reader. Because neither the author nor > > the publisher have any > > > >> control > > > >> over the use of the information by the > reader, > > both the author and the > > > >> publisher disclaim any and all liability of > any > > kind arising out of > > such > > > >> use. The reader is expected to exercise sound > > professional judgment in > > > >> using > > > >> any of the information presented in a > > particular application. > > > >> Additionally, neither the author nor the > > publisher have investigated or > > > >> considered the affect of any patents on the > > ability of the reader to > > use > > > >> any > > > >> of the information in a particular > application. > > The reader is > > responsible > > > >> for reviewing any possible patents that may > > affect any particular use > > of > > > >> the > > > >> information presented. > > > >> Any references to commercial products in the > > work are cited as examples > > > >> only. Neither the author nor the publisher > > endorse any referenced > > > >> commercial > > > >> product. Any trademarks or tradenames > > referenced belong to the > > respective > > > >> owner of the mark or name. Neither the author > > nor the publisher make > > any > > > >> representation regarding the availability of > > any referenced commercial > > > >> product at any time. The manufacturer's > > instructions on use of any > > > >> commercial product must be followed at all > > times, even if in conflict > > > >> with > > > >> the information in this publication. > > > >> > > > >> Have an outstanding day and remember... Every > > day is a good day for > > > >> someone. > > > >> Make it be you. > > > >> > > > >> Katie Hill > > > >> kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> 503-777-7155 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > > Behalf Of John Moore > > > >> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:42 PM > > > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Industrial > > Ethernet released back into > > the > > > >> download pool > > > >> > > > >> I actually had to reject In Him by Kenneth E. > > Hagin (it's Hagen) > > > >> yesterday. If that volunteer that submitted > > that book is on the list, > > > >> please put the copyright info in the document > > next time. > > > >> > > > >> On 2/2/07, Katie Hill <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > >>> HI Dan, > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> IF you are struggling with it that much I > can > > do a rescan of the book. > > > >>> IT > > > >>> was a bit of a challenge when scanning. Feel > > free to reject it and I > > can > > > >>> rescan it. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Have an outstanding day and remember... > Every > > day is a good day for > > > >> someone. > > > >>> Make it be you. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Katie Hill > > > >>> > > > >>> kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >>> > > > >>> 503-777-7155 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> _____ > > > >>> > > > >>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > On Behalf Of Dan Beaver > > > >>> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:47 AM > > > >>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Industrial > Ethernet > > released back into the > > > >>> download pool > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Ok, I am giving up on this one. It has a > very > > large number of > > acronyms' > > > >> but > > > >>> those are ok. It also has quite a large > > number of misspellings and > > > >>> quite > > > >> a > > > >>> few tables that I am just not figuring out. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> It is out there if anyone else wants to take > a > > shot at it. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> John Moore > > > >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank > > Email to > > > >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > subject line. To get a > > list > > > >> of > > > >> available commands, put the word 'help' by > > itself in the subject line. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank > > Email to > > > >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > subject line. 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