[bksvol-discuss] Re: calling on validators to work on Christian books

  • From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 16:16:15 -0600

Hi Monica,

Page breaks have been a requirement of bookshare.org for quite a long time, 
and the submitter of whom you speak knows that very well.  I feel no qualms 
about rejecting a book which does not have page breaks because bookshare 
does not accept them, and that is that.

Sue S.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Monica Willyard
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 3:37 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: calling on validators to work on Christian 
books


Hi, Sharon. I'm not Elizabeth, but I've seen some of what she's describing. 
I think Elizabeth and I may be dealing with two different submitters though, 
since the one I know of isn't a nun. The end result is the same though.

We have a submitter who submits clean scans, but there isn't a page break to 
be found. There are page numbers and headers, but they appear in the middle 
of the text with no way to find them but to read the book cover to cover, 
inserting page breaks manually. They show up as part of sentences with the 
text flowing around them like water flows around a rock in a stream. Since 
this lady submits mostly Christian nonfiction that is kind of heavy reading, 
validating her books is time-consuming. It's also difficult to know for sure 
that all of the content is present until you have all of the page breaks 
inserted. I spent 6 hours working on the last book, only to find several 
missing paragraphs or missing pages toward the middle of the book. Without 
the page breaks, I really couldn't tell what was missing and ended up having 
to reject the book.

What's weird is that her original files lack page breaks. She has sent me 
her kes files for some of her scans, and they have had no page breaks. I'm 
at a loss to know what is causing this. If page breaks weren't required, 
most of this lady's books could be accepted because the text is very cleanly 
scanned. I don't like this situation, but one of our rules is that page 
breaks are required. So either we need to find some volunteers who are 
willing to read through her books and insert page breaks, or we need to find 
out what's causing this problem in the first place. My vote is for the 
second option because then her books would be very easy validations. To my 
knowledge, this person isn't on either of the Bookshare lists. I don't know 
how to help her or what is causing the trouble. So the first option, finding 
volunteers to tackle her books, may have to be done. Rejecting such clean 
scans seems wrong to me. What a mess!

Monica Willyard

Sharon wrote:
In the examples you have seen, is there anything that tells you a page break
be inserted, like a page number or a chapter or book title at the top of a
page?
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of E.
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:54 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] calling on validators to work on Christian
books


There are a lot of books on step 1 with Christian themes. Some are
fiction and other nonfiction works.

Some submitters are submitting books which lack page breaks.
Bookshare cannot accept these. Other submitters are submitting poor
quality or "raw scans". They seem to think that validators will
either put in page breaks for them or clean up their work.
Perhaps some of you want to take on this class of books.

What is the setting in what software which produces submits without
page breaks?

By the way, I also notice most of these submitters do not have email
addresses with the submits.

E.

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