[bksvol-discuss] Re: braille
- From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:07:04 -0700
Oh, come on, Donna, rant away. I would further submit that Braille can be
fun particularly if you use it to read books you like. So often I hear from
people that use Braille to label stuff or for strictly utilitarian purposes.
That's okay as far as it goes. I use it to keep financial records of what I
spend and where, etc. I think we adults are being short-changed with regard
to Braille magazines. Kids can get whole magazines devoted to fiction, while
we adults have magazines devoted to strictly practical matters (the
exception to the rule is Poetry magazine. Where are the magazines devoted to
genre literature in short story form? Gone, gone, gone! To me this is a
shame. The only Braille magazines I get are Poetry, The Musical Mainstream,
and Braille Book Review. Very slim pickings for me. (Don't let me get
started on this one.) Regards, Kim.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:09 AM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: braille
Hi Kim,
I completely agree! :) I can't imagine my life without braille. I also
think that if you learn braille, you always have a choice. You can decide
to listen to an audio book, use a computer speech only or whatever. But for
those times that you need or want braille you have it. I ticks me off that
for so many kids, the choice is made for them by others who may not
understand the critical importance of having braille as an option, and how
difficult it can be to acquire that option later in life.
Anyway, I'll stop before I launch my own rant, but I think you're right on
target.
Cheers,
Donna
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From: Kim Friedman <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:24 AM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: braille
Hi, Elizabeth, I think it a downright shame that blind kids are given the
impression that Braille is of no use to them, ergo, they needn't bother
learning it. This is insuring that blind people are, for all intents and
purposes, becoming functionally illiterate, a thing I think sighted people
tend not to recognize, since they see print as meaning literacy. I think it
imperative that folks understand that Braille is another means of literacy
equivalent to print. I am bugged that Braille is being short-changed. I hope
you forgive the rant here, and I bet you feel as strongly as I do on the
subject. Any subject can be taught well or ill depending on the instructor.
I don't know if Gwen is a recent Braille reader or not, but I don't wish to
see anyone being cheated out of anything that could enrich their lives. This
thing with me and the computer is a case in point. If I had had a computer
with a screen reader back in the '90's when I was going for computer
instruction, I would feel more confident and competent as a result. I would
have not felt so intimidated by the sheer notion of buying a computer. I
still don't know what I'd ask for, but since I'm getting computer
instruction and have learned a little more than I knew last year, I may have
a general idea of what I want. If we get the right kind of help which
enables our progress rather than causing us to flounder about and stumble, I
say that's what we all need, good teaching and support. Enough of rant
(smile). Sorry, I know you weren't probably expecting me to indulge in an
outright peroration here. I just dislike it when people get shoddy advice or
shoddy help. Take care and very best to you. Have a good week, Kim.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E.
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 5:58 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] braille
Kim, Ann is correct in pointing out that if you have the newer mpower you do
not have to rename the file. You can read a .xml file in internet Explorer.
By the way, so good to hear one braille reader encouraging somebody
relatively new to braille.
I love and have always loved good audio. I use all kinds of speech every
day.
My parents would let me listen to Talking Books after I had studied my
braille when I was six seven or eight.
Because they insisted, I became a good braille reader.
I know things may be different for somebody who comes to braille later in
life.
I also know encouraging somebody on that learning curve may make a
difference for that person.
The more you use braille the easier it becomes to use. It's like exercising
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