[bksvol-discuss] Re: book

  • From: "k4zq" <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 09:12:14 -0500

Hi Cindy,

Sometimes I think that Ms Rand's portrayal of her heroic characters is a bit exaggerated. John Gault could be a great forerunner of Star Trek's Spock.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with the main thrust of her thinking. There is still a lot of insistence on conformity, and the individual with the integrity to buck the system in favor of his art still receives a bunch of frowns.

I could go on for a while about this drivel, but I think not on the list.

Peace,
Ernie
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:31 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: book



Ah. It's been so long since I read them. I guess I'll
have to again. My vague recollection is that I liked
the idea of individualism as presented in the
Fountainhead, and of the hero's doing his own thing,
as it were, but that in Atlas Shrugged the main
characters were too unconcerned about others and their
welfare--were too selfish and hurt others. All that
remains in my memory now is Gary Cooper from the
Fountainhead movie and trains and train magnates from
Atlas Shrugged. But it was 50+ years ago that I read
the books.

I copied this from the library's annotation:

"A new generation has discovered that Anthem, is more
socially relevant today that it was when it was
written sixty years ago.

"Anthem is the classic story about the consequences of
social collectivism and the importance of
individualism.

Anthem was first published in hardcover by Caxton
Press in 1953 and is now in its twelfth printing.
Anthem has been described as "one of the most
beautiful prose poems ever written."

It does sound interesting.
I wonder if my opinion of Rand's philosophy would be
different now that I'm 70 instead of 20. I do approve
of one's going one's own way and sticking up for what
one believes in and being individualistic as long as
other people are not hurt. smile

Cindy


--- k4zq <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Cindy,

Actually, the philosophy expressed in the two books
is identical.  The story
lines are different, but Ms. Rand is coming from the
same place.

There is a third book in this genre called "Anthem."
 From what I've heard
it's supposed to wrap up this line of thinking.

Peace,
Ernie
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 7:01 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: book



> chuckle.
>
> It was so long ago that I read both books, I can't
> remember. I just remember that I totally agreed
with
> the philosophy expressed in The Fountainhead --and
> loved the movie-- but I disagreed with that
expressed
> in Atlas Shrugged--but I can't remember why. I was
a
> *lot* younger then, and my opinions might be
different
> now.
>
> Cindy
>
> --- k4zq <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Cindy,
>>
>> Sorry I had to run without making one point that
I
>> found fascinating about
>> Atlas.
>>
>> While Ms. Rand had her goup of leading characters
>> subscribing to a
>> philosophy of total self involvement, John Gault
had
>> a watchful eye on Dagne
>> (If I remember the spelling,) throughout the
whole
>> book. In fact, now that
>> I think of it, so did that whole group of
>> industrialists.
>>
>> All I can say is God help anyoone who would have
>> thought of touching her in
>> any way! Not me Coach!
>>
>> Peace,
>> Ernie
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:31 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: book
>>
>>
>> > Ernie, which book is it? Is it The Fountaihead,
or
>> > Atlas Shrugged, or is it by a different author
>> whose
>> > surname is Rand? I like The Fountainhead when I
>> read
>> > it years ago, and didn't care for Atlas
Shrugged.
>> I
>> > see she's written several nonfiction books and
>> another
>> > one called Anthem that I never heard of.
>> >
>> > If your author is the author of the
>> above-mentioned
>> > books, her first name is spelled A y n, and
she's
>> > female. If your author is indeed an I a n Rand,
>> then
>> > my apologies.
>> >
>> > Cindy
>> >
>> > --- k4zq <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Urica, (or some such expression!)
>> >>
>> >> Thank you Sue, Gerald and especially my
terribly
>> >> patient, Katie. I should like also to thank
my
>> >> wife, and our 4 dawgs; not for any particular
>> >> reason.
>> >>
>> >> I downloaded this blasted, so I have another
week
>> to
>> >> basically read it, and do what I can to clean
up
>> an
>> >> already nearly perfect book.
>> >>
>> >> Peace,
>> >> Ernie
>> >
>> >
>> >
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