Hi Charisma,
Oh, boy. I'm going to copy a section on the ellipsis that is our standard
for handling them so that they represent properly in braille. This is what
Bookshare would like you to do, please. I'll paste it below my signature.
And then I'll save a copy for myself, because it's going to be a pain in
the
neck to copy here from the braille book that I have it in that tells how
to
format braille properly. Tell me that you love me, because I have to read
with two hands, remember enough to type, type it and go back and read some
more. But all of your questions about how to handle the ellipsis will be
answered!
As for bold, it does not denote headings, the enlarged size
Of the font does that. The bolding is helpful, and we like it, but it
isn't
required. So you needn't go back and fix them if you don't want to.
Bookshare does not require that you keep either bold or italics. That
said,
as a reader yourself, with the ability to perceive italics, would you
personally prefer to have it in there? Many do, some people don't care.
My
advice, leave what you've done be for this book, call it a learning
experience, and don't remove the italics in future books. Torture is not
the name of the game here, and I know that there are lots of books from
which italics have been removed by folks who didn't know they mattered.
Okay, I'm going to paste/type below the information on how to properly
handle the ellipsis.
Mayrie
The ellipsis should be punctuated as if it were a word. Examples:
"Fools rush in ..."
"... for they shall inherit the earth"
"Breathe, Mellissa. In ... and out. In ...
and out."
An ellipsis and a period. Sometimes an ellipsis appears to be four dots
rather than three. This is because the ellipsis is either preceded or
followed by a period. Since the braille period is not the same as the dots
of an ellipsis, it must be determined which of the four dots is the
period.
If the sentence is incomplete, does not contain a subject and a verb and
express a complete thought, then the ellipsis is taking the place of
missing
words within the sentence--in which the period immediately follows the
ellipsis, just as it would a word. If a sentence is gramatically complete,
the first dot represents the period and the ellipsis represents a
following
missing sentence or sentences. In this case a blank cell (a space) is left
between the period and the following ellipsis.
Example:
As you can see, I have followed your career. ... As to my own .... Well,
you
know the story.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charisma
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] bolds, italics, ellipses
In the book I just scanned, from which I erroneously erased all italics
and
bolds, the bolds were found in the glossary, for each new word.
Ought I to have left those bolds? I thought anything that was in bold
indicated to the converter that that was a heading? Of course, in this
case,
perhaps each new word in the glossary ought to be it's own heading? I
already had the beginning of the Glossary at font point 16.
I wonder now if I ought to have made each word in the glossary font point
14, each word a subheading.
OK, and since I erased every last italic in this 255+ page book, ought I
to
go back and replace them all? I will because I want the book to be perfect
but do I NEED to? (can you guess how I am hoping? lol)
Finally, ellipses. I have a question about your experiences. All ellipses
in these examples are three dots, not spaces between them. On my Victor
Reader Stream, Set-up #1 If there is a word, then an ellipsis right up
against it, then a space, then the next word, it reads fine; I never know
there is an ellipsis there.
Set-up #2 If there is a word, then a space, then the ellipsis, then a
space,
then the next word, I hear" dot dot dot".
Set-up #3 If there is a word and either a space or no space, then an
ellipsis then no space then the next word, if that next word has an
apostrophe it will not read properly. That is, if the ellipsis pushes up
against the word God's (like this ",,,God's"), my reader will read that as
"dot dot dot God s"
I cannot remember which book it was that was doing this so I can't
doublecheck it in Victor Reader Soft but I am pretty sure these problems
are
the same in there.
My TextAloud does not care as far as #3 goes--it does not neglect
apostrophes.
Also, hate hate hate four dot ellipses. Period OR ellipsis, author people,
not period AND ellipsis. I made an executive decision and made half 4 dot
and half 3 dot int eh 255+ page book I just did. Which shall I fix?
Charisma
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