Courtney, I think what she was saying was that she was copying that digest to Robin so that Robin could join in on the discussion. We have not yet received Robin's response.
On 2/21/2012 5:41 PM, Courtney Stover wrote:
Alissa, I'm not seeing any message from Robin in any of this. All it is is your intro, and then a bunch of blank lines. Then, the other messages to which you are replying begin. Can you please resend Robin's message? Courtney On 2/21/12, Alisa Moore<alisam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi all, I'm introducing Robin Seaman into the discussion via this email, so that she can provide you (and me!) with clarification regarding the status of our relationship with Google (books) and the rules/laws that govern our relationship with them. Alisa -----Original Message----- From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager [mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 10:13 PM To: bksvol-discuss digest users Subject: bksvol-discuss Digest V9 #51 bksvol-discuss Digest Mon, 20 Feb 2012 Volume: 09 Issue: 051 In This Issue: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Speaking of Google Books, and Alissa pl [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sentences from books. [bksvol-discuss] Re: Speaking of Google Books, and Alissa pl [bksvol-discuss] Re: Speaking of Google Books, and Alissa pl [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sentences from books. [bksvol-discuss] Re: Speaking of Google Books, and Alissa pl [bksvol-discuss] Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book [bksvol-discuss] Re: Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book [bksvol-discuss] Re: Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book [bksvol-discuss] Re: Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book [bksvol-discuss] Re: Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book [bksvol-discuss] Re: Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book [bksvol-discuss] Re: Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book [bksvol-discuss] duplicate books on bookshare ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:30:52 -0800 (PST) From: Barbara B<scootergirlred@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Speaking of Google Books, and Alissa please read Can an individual get the google books and download them to the computers? Barbara --- On Sun, 2/19/12, Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Speaking of Google Books, and Alissa please read this. To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 6:00 PM Speaking of Google books, I am reminded of something. A long time ago, in the context of publisher donated books, I asked if there was any possibility of getting Google to donate the electronic texts of their millions of books to Bookshare. My understanding of the copyright law should make this possible. Just think. Bookshare's collection could grow by about six million books all at once. Pavi said that Bookshare was in talks with Google about just that. Well, since I am recalling back at least two volunteer coordinators and it was well before she left then that was certainly a long time ago. The discussion of the matter ended on that note. I think enough time has passed to ask about it again. What is the status of those talks with Google? Will we ever get those millions of books into the collection? To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:33:06 -0800 (PST) From: Cindy<popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sentences from books. Thanks Cindy (I'm returning to just Cindy (Rose was the first half of my last name), since it was pointed out that the Fromn space indcaes Cindy Ray when she writes, and just Cindy for me. smile. I'm used to being Cindy. smile________________________________ From: Sue Stevens<siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:21 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sentences from books. Just to add to the post about books.google.com. In the search box you put the title of the book in quotes, space, put a plus sign, space, and write a phrase. Sue S. -----Original Message----- From: Sk22 Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:38 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Sentences from books. I thought I saw a post a short time ago that said something about providing the previous and the following words to a sentence in a book and there would be some way to find what was missing. I thought it had something to do with Google. If something like this exists, could someone please post it again. Thanks. Shirley __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6897 (20120219) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4819 - Release Date: 02/19/12 To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:14:58 -0800 Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Speaking of Google Books, and Alissa please read From: Chela Robles<cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx> If thcy could it wouldn't be accessible for screen reader users. On 2/19/12, Barbara B<scootergirlred@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Can an individual get the google books and download them to the computers? Barbara --- On Sun, 2/19/12, Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Speaking of Google Books, and Alissa please read this. To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 6:00 PM Speaking of Google books, I am reminded of something. A long time ago, in the context of publisher donated books, I asked if there was any possibility of getting Google to donate the electronic texts of their millions of books to Bookshare. My understanding of the copyright law should make this possible. Just think. Bookshare's collection could grow by about six million books all at once. Pavi said that Bookshare was in talks with Google about just that. Well, since I am recalling back at least two volunteer coordinators and it was well before she left then that was certainly a long time ago. The discussion of the matter ended on that note. I think enough time has passed to ask about it again. What is the status of those talks with Google? Will we ever get those millions of books into the collection? To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.-- -- "To me, music that breaks your heart is the music that stays with you forever. It's one thing to be melancholy and one thing to be sophisticated, but when you get the two of them together in a way people can relate to, then I think you're on to something. You want the sophistication to lie in the purity of the sound, the beauty of the arrangements, and the quality of the performances."-Trumpeter Chris Botti -- Chela Robles E-Mail/GoogleTalk/AIM/MySpace/LinkedIn: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx WindowsLive Messenger: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxxxx E-Buddy ID: cdrobles693 Skype Name: jazzytrumpet Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chela.robles I volunteer for a non-profit organization called Bookshare, to learn more and to join us, visit: http://www.bookshare.org Visit my blog piece from Learning Ally and after reading and listening to the song selection, fill out the form which requires no CAPCHAS unless you're a robot at: http://www.learningally.org/Blog/Access-and-Achievement/144/vobId__2525/ -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:17:50 -0500 From: Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Speaking of Google Books, and Alissa please read You can download the ones that are out of copyright, but the most of them you cannot. You will recall that when Google first started Google books the publishers had a fit over it. Then an agreement was finally worked out in which Google could distribute their books to certain libraries for lending with some pretty stringent restrictions the details of which I don't recall. As I understand the copyright exception that Bookshare operates under, though, it should be just fine if Google turned over all those files to be used at Bookshare just like any other book is used at Bookshare and that would mean a fantastic growth of the Bookshare collection in a very short time. Right now, though, the best you can do in accessing Google books is to read snippets of text here and there like we have been discussing insofar as we search for a small bit of text in order to decipher an unclear word. On 2/20/2012 1:30 AM, Barbara B wrote:Can an individual get the google books and download them to the computers? Barbara --- On *Sun, 2/19/12, Roger Loran Bailey /<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>/* wrote: From: Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Speaking of Google Books, and Alissa please read this. To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 6:00 PM Speaking of Google books, I am reminded of something. A long time ago, in the context of publisher donated books, I asked if there was any possibility of getting Google to donate the electronic texts of their millions of books to Bookshare. My understanding of the copyright law should make this possible. Just think. Bookshare's collection could grow by about six million books all at once. Pavi said that Bookshare was in talks with Google about just that. Well, since I am recalling back at least two volunteer coordinators and it was well before she left then that was certainly a long time ago. The discussion of the matter ended on that note. I think enough time has passed to ask about it again. What is the status of those talks with Google? Will we ever get those millions of books into the collection? To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://us.mc1224.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:49:18 -0500 From: Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sentences from books. But Cindy, why didn't you tell us that you were the mayor of Norman, Oklahoma? This web site assures us that you were elected in 2007: http://www.ci.norman.ok.us/content/mayor On 2/20/2012 2:33 AM, Cindy wrote:Thanks Cindy (I'm returning to just Cindy (Rose was the first half of my last name), since it was pointed out that the Fromn space indcaes Cindy Ray when she writes, and just Cindy for me. smile. I'm used to being Cindy. smile *From:* Sue Stevens<siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Sent:* Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:21 PM *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sentences from books. Just to add to the post about books.google.com <http://books.google.com>. In the search box you put the title of the book in quotes, space, put a plus sign, space, and write a phrase. Sue S. -----Original Message----- From: Sk22 Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:38 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Sentences from books. I thought I saw a post a short time ago that said something about providing the previous and the following words to a sentence in a book and there would be some way to find what was missing. I thought it had something to do with Google. If something like this exists, could someone please post it again. Thanks. Shirley __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6897 (20120219) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4819 - Release Date: 02/19/12 To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:44:50 -0800 Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Speaking of Google Books, and Alissa please read From: Chela Robles<cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx> Right, well I hope that this will work, the suggestion you made to bookshare staff. On 2/20/12, Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:You can download the ones that are out of copyright, but the most of them you cannot. You will recall that when Google first started Google books the publishers had a fit over it. Then an agreement was finally worked out in which Google could distribute their books to certain libraries for lending with some pretty stringent restrictions the details of which I don't recall. As I understand the copyright exception that Bookshare operates under, though, it should be just fine if Google turned over all those files to be used at Bookshare just like any other book is used at Bookshare and that would mean a fantastic growth of the Bookshare collection in a very short time. Right now, though, the best you can do in accessing Google books is to read snippets of text here and there like we have been discussing insofar as we search for a small bit of text in order to decipher an unclear word. On 2/20/2012 1:30 AM, Barbara B wrote:Can an individual get the google books and download them to the computers? Barbara --- On *Sun, 2/19/12, Roger Loran Bailey /<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>/* wrote: From: Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Speaking of Google Books, and Alissa please read this. To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 6:00 PM Speaking of Google books, I am reminded of something. A long time ago, in the context of publisher donated books, I asked if there was any possibility of getting Google to donate the electronic texts of their millions of books to Bookshare. My understanding of the copyright law should make this possible. Just think. Bookshare's collection could grow by about six million books all at once. Pavi said that Bookshare was in talks with Google about just that. Well, since I am recalling back at least two volunteer coordinators and it was well before she left then that was certainly a long time ago. The discussion of the matter ended on that note. I think enough time has passed to ask about it again. What is the status of those talks with Google? Will we ever get those millions of books into the collection? To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://us.mc1224.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.-- -- "To me, music that breaks your heart is the music that stays with you forever. It's one thing to be melancholy and one thing to be sophisticated, but when you get the two of them together in a way people can relate to, then I think you're on to something. You want the sophistication to lie in the purity of the sound, the beauty of the arrangements, and the quality of the performances."-Trumpeter Chris Botti -- Chela Robles E-Mail/GoogleTalk/AIM/MySpace/LinkedIn: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx WindowsLive Messenger: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxxxx E-Buddy ID: cdrobles693 Skype Name: jazzytrumpet Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chela.robles I volunteer for a non-profit organization called Bookshare, to learn more and to join us, visit: http://www.bookshare.org Visit my blog piece from Learning Ally and after reading and listening to the song selection, fill out the form which requires no CAPCHAS unless you're a robot at: http://www.learningally.org/Blog/Access-and-Achievement/144/vobId__2525/ -- ------------------------------ From: "Evan Reese"<mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:56:24 -0500 Today I had an odd experience on Bookshare. I downloaded a book called This Will Make You Smarter edited by John Brockman. I went to Amazon first to read a bit about it before deciding to check Bookshare. It said there that the book was published last Tuesday. So I went to Bookshare and found a PQ copy of the book. I looked it up under the editor's name, and when I found the title I looked no further. Interestingly, the date of addition was December 12, 2011. I was impressed. It seemed that HarperCollins was giving Bookshare their books even before they were officially published. Well, that turned out not to be quite the case. After downloading and unzipping the brf copy of the book, I found that it' was only 22.1Kb in size. The table of contents had only a couple of the essays in it, and only what was in the table of contents was in that copy. So I went back up to Bookshare and entered the title into Advanced search. It was then that I found two copies of the book, the seve rely truncated one I had gotten originally, and the full edition, 545Kb in size for the brf version, that was added on the same date it was officially published, February 14. I don't know how many other instances of this kind of thing there might be, but I thought I should mention it here. Don't stop when you find the first occurrence of a book title you're looking for, and if there is more than one instance, get the one with the most recent date of addition. Evan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:02:17 -0500 Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book From: "Ixchel, Jackie (M.E)"<starsandhearts2@xxxxxxxxx> Hi Evan, Thank you so much for that advice. Jackie On 2/20/12, Evan Reese<mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Today I had an odd experience on Bookshare. I downloaded a book called This Will Make You Smarter edited by John Brockman. I went to Amazon first to read a bit about it before deciding to check Bookshare. It said there that the book was published last Tuesday. So I went to Bookshare and found a PQ copy of the book. I looked it up under the editor's name, and when I found the title I looked no further. Interestingly, the date of addition was December 12, 2011. I was impressed. It seemed that HarperCollins was giving Bookshare their books even before they were officially published. Well, that turned out not to be quite the case. After downloading and unzipping the brf copy of the book, I found that it' was only 22.1Kb in size. The table of contents had only a couple of the essays in it, and only what was in the table of contents was in that copy. So I went back up to Bookshare and entered the title into Advanced search. It was then that I found two copies of the book, the severely truncated one I had gotten originally, and the full edition, 545Kb in size for the brf version, that was added on the same date it was officially published, February 14. I don't know how many other instances of this kind of thing there might be, but I thought I should mention it here. Don't stop when you find the first occurrence of a book title you're looking for, and if there is more than one instance, get the one with the most recent date of addition. Evan-- Currently Reading: The Lost Hero by Rick Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:14:00 -0500 Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book From: Ali Al-Hajamy<aalhajamy@xxxxxxxxx> I see that on ocasion. I tried to download Les Misérables once, and there was a book which claimed to be the newest translation by Julie Rose. On unzipping it I found that it was in fact an adapted version for children and published long before the translation in question even came out. Another instance occurs with The Brothers Karamazov. The summary claims to be the translation by Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky, but the copyright date is 1970, twenty years before the P&V translation was released, and on opening the book it turned out to be the Andrew R. MacAndrew translation, which I already had. This doesn't happen enough for me to care, and the translations Bookshare has are perfectly fine, readable ones, but yours is not the first incident of this nature. On 2/20/12, Evan Reese<mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Today I had an odd experience on Bookshare. I downloaded a book called This Will Make You Smarter edited by John Brockman. I went to Amazon first to read a bit about it before deciding to check Bookshare. It said there that the book was published last Tuesday. So I went to Bookshare and found a PQ copy of the book. I looked it up under the editor's name, and when I found the title I looked no further. Interestingly, the date of addition was December 12, 2011. I was impressed. It seemed that HarperCollins was giving Bookshare their books even before they were officially published. Well, that turned out not to be quite the case. After downloading and unzipping the brf copy of the book, I found that it' was only 22.1Kb in size. The table of contents had only a couple of the essays in it, and only what was in the table of contents was in that copy. So I went back up to Bookshare and entered the title into Advanced search. It was then that I found two copies of the book, the severely truncated one I had gotten originally, and the full edition, 545Kb in size for the brf version, that was added on the same date it was officially published, February 14. I don't know how many other instances of this kind of thing there might be, but I thought I should mention it here. Don't stop when you find the first occurrence of a book title you're looking for, and if there is more than one instance, get the one with the most recent date of addition. Evan------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:01:01 -0500 From: Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book I have been contemplating downloading that one myself. I am glad you gave the warning before I did. This, by the way, is a definite case to make a quality report about. Now and then I have seen other publisher books that have been added to the collection that I have not downloaded but that I find questionable as to whether they really should be in the collection such as books of excerpts of other books that have been apparently compiled just for promotional purposes. I would question why anyone would download something like that when they could download the whole books. On 2/20/2012 6:56 PM, Evan Reese wrote:Today I had an odd experience on Bookshare. I downloaded a book called This Will Make You Smarter edited by John Brockman. I went to Amazon first to read a bit about it before deciding to check Bookshare. It said there that the book was published last Tuesday. So I went to Bookshare and found a PQ copy of the book. I looked it up under the editor's name, and when I found the title I looked no further. Interestingly, the date of addition was December 12, 2011. I was impressed. It seemed that HarperCollins was giving Bookshare their books even before they were officially published. Well, that turned out not to be quite the case. After downloading and unzipping the brf copy of the book, I found that it' was only 22.1Kb in size. The table of contents had only a couple of the essays in it, and only what was in the table of contents was in that copy. So I went back up to Bookshare and entered the title into Advanced search. It was then that I found two copies of the book, the severely truncated one I had gotten originally, and the full edition, 545Kb in size for the brf version, that was added on the same date it was officially published, February 14. I don't know how many other instances of this kind of thing there might be, but I thought I should mention it here. Don't stop when you find the first occurrence of a book title you're looking for, and if there is more than one instance, get the one with the most recent date of addition. Evan------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:04:02 -0500 Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book From: "Ixchel, Jackie (M.E)"<starsandhearts2@xxxxxxxxx> Has anyone reported these books? On 2/20/12, Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:I have been contemplating downloading that one myself. I am glad you gave the warning before I did. This, by the way, is a definite case to make a quality report about. Now and then I have seen other publisher books that have been added to the collection that I have not downloaded but that I find questionable as to whether they really should be in the collection such as books of excerpts of other books that have been apparently compiled just for promotional purposes. I would question why anyone would download something like that when they could download the whole books. On 2/20/2012 6:56 PM, Evan Reese wrote:Today I had an odd experience on Bookshare. I downloaded a book called This Will Make You Smarter edited by John Brockman. I went to Amazon first to read a bit about it before deciding to check Bookshare. It said there that the book was published last Tuesday. So I went to Bookshare and found a PQ copy of the book. I looked it up under the editor's name, and when I found the title I looked no further. Interestingly, the date of addition was December 12, 2011. I was impressed. It seemed that HarperCollins was giving Bookshare their books even before they were officially published. Well, that turned out not to be quite the case. After downloading and unzipping the brf copy of the book, I found that it' was only 22.1Kb in size. The table of contents had only a couple of the essays in it, and only what was in the table of contents was in that copy. So I went back up to Bookshare and entered the title into Advanced search. It was then that I found two copies of the book, the severely truncated one I had gotten originally, and the full edition, 545Kb in size for the brf version, that was added on the same date it was officially published, February 14. I don't know how many other instances of this kind of thing there might be, but I thought I should mention it here. Don't stop when you find the first occurrence of a book title you're looking for, and if there is more than one instance, get the one with the most recent date of addition. Evan-- Currently Reading: The Lost Hero by Rick Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:51:15 -0500 From: Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book If you mean the ones that look like advertising, I don't know. I only know that when I came across them while browsing the newly added books I thought about mentioning them here and of providing a link to make my point. However, thinking about something too long can lead to inaction and that is exactly what happened to me. I no longer remember the titles in question and would not know how to find them in the collection again now. I would have to come across them again and the collection is so large now that it might be a while at the very least. I should have reported them though. If anyone else does come across them then I would urge you to do what I failed to do and report them. On 2/20/2012 9:04 PM, Ixchel, Jackie (M.E) wrote:Has anyone reported these books? On 2/20/12, Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:I have been contemplating downloading that one myself. I am glad you gave the warning before I did. This, by the way, is a definite case to make a quality report about. Now and then I have seen other publisher books that have been added to the collection that I have not downloaded but that I find questionable as to whether they really should be in the collection such as books of excerpts of other books that have been apparently compiled just for promotional purposes. I would question why anyone would download something like that when they could download the whole books. On 2/20/2012 6:56 PM, Evan Reese wrote:Today I had an odd experience on Bookshare. I downloaded a book called This Will Make You Smarter edited by John Brockman. I went to Amazon first to read a bit about it before deciding to check Bookshare. It said there that the book was published last Tuesday. So I went to Bookshare and found a PQ copy of the book. I looked it up under the editor's name, and when I found the title I looked no further. Interestingly, the date of addition was December 12, 2011. I was impressed. It seemed that HarperCollins was giving Bookshare their books even before they were officially published. Well, that turned out not to be quite the case. After downloading and unzipping the brf copy of the book, I found that it' was only 22.1Kb in size. The table of contents had only a couple of the essays in it, and only what was in the table of contents was in that copy. So I went back up to Bookshare and entered the title into Advanced search. It was then that I found two copies of the book, the severely truncated one I had gotten originally, and the full edition, 545Kb in size for the brf version, that was added on the same date it was officially published, February 14. I don't know how many other instances of this kind of thing there might be, but I thought I should mention it here. Don't stop when you find the first occurrence of a book title you're looking for, and if there is more than one instance, get the one with the most recent date of addition. Evan------------------------------ From: "Sandi Ryan"<sjryan2@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Watch Out for the Wrong PQ Book Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:29:58 -0600 Hi Roger, Do you think these are books from the publishers that have been released as eBook samples? I know that on Amazon, there are Kindle books for $2 or $3 that are very abridged and designed to let you try a book before you spend the whole amount on it. I'll watch for these books, too. Sandi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Loran Bailey"<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> To:<bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:51 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Watch Out for the Wrong PQ BookIf you mean the ones that look like advertising, I don't know. I only know that when I came across them while browsing the newly added books I thought about mentioning them here and of providing a link to make my point. However, thinking about something too long can lead to inaction and that is exactly what happened to me. I no longer remember the titles in question and would not know how to find them in the collection again now. I would have to come across them again and the collection is so large now that it might be a while at the very least. I should have reported them though. If anyone else does come across them then I would urge you to do what I failed to do and report them. On 2/20/2012 9:04 PM, Ixchel, Jackie (M.E) wrote:Has anyone reported these books? On 2/20/12, Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:I have been contemplating downloading that one myself. I am glad you gave the warning before I did. This, by the way, is a definite case to make a quality report about. Now and then I have seen other publisher books that have been added to the collection that I have not downloaded but that I find questionable as to whether they really should be in the collection such as books of excerpts of other books that have been apparently compiled just for promotional purposes. I would question why anyone would download something like that when they could download the whole books. On 2/20/2012 6:56 PM, Evan Reese wrote:Today I had an odd experience on Bookshare. I downloaded a book called This Will Make You Smarter edited by John Brockman. I went to Amazon first to read a bit about it before deciding to check Bookshare. It said there that the book was published last Tuesday. So I went to Bookshare and found a PQ copy of the book. I looked it up under the editor's name, and when I found the title I looked no further. Interestingly, the date of addition was December 12, 2011. I was impressed. It seemed that HarperCollins was giving Bookshare their books even before they were officially published. Well, that turned out not to be quite the case. After downloading and unzipping the brf copy of the book, I found that it' was only 22.1Kb in size. The table of contents had only a couple of the essays in it, and only what was in the table of contents was in that copy. So I went back up to Bookshare and entered the title into Advanced search. It was then that I found two copies of the book, the severely truncated one I had gotten originally, and the full edition, 545Kb in size for the brf version, that was added on the same date it was officially published, February 14. I don't know how many other instances of this kind of thing there might be, but I thought I should mention it here. Don't stop when you find the first occurrence of a book title you're looking for, and if there is more than one instance, get the one with the most recent date of addition. EvanTo unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:16:08 -0500 From: "E."<thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] duplicate books on bookshare Hello Evan, This is Elizabeth, who volunteered a as a proofreader/validator with bookshare many moons ago. You may remember that I have been barred from scanning and submitting books or from volunteering to proofread books. However, I am still a loyal borrower of bookshare books. I also file quality reports with bookshare every time I run across a title which is entered twice into the bookshare collection. There are many many such duplicate titles. Please encourage others to file similar quality reports. I read your message on the Volunteer List about running across two copies of a publisher-submitted book. What I am running across seems to be that same sort of thing. So, since I am not allowed to communicate on either bookshare list, I do ask you to pass along this message, minus my email address or name. Please just put the gist of what I say into a message asking others to check for duplicates and submit quality reports when you folks find them. Bookshare then sends out a note saying one of the copies has been removed. Thanks much. Former Volunteer, E. Elizabeth At 06:56 PM 2/20/2012, you wrote:Today I had an odd experience on Bookshare. I downloaded a book called This Will Make You Smarter edited by John Brockman. I went to Amazon first to read a bit about it before deciding to check Bookshare. It said there that the book was published last Tuesday. So I went to Bookshare and found a PQ copy of the book. I looked it up under the editor's name, and when I found the title I looked no further. Interestingly, the date of addition was December 12, 2011. I was impressed. It seemed that HarperCollins was giving Bookshare their books even before they were officially published. Well, that turned out not to be quite the case. After downloading and unzipping the brf copy of the book, I found that it' was only 22.1Kb in size. The table of contents had only a couple of the essays in it, and only what was in the table of contents was in that copy. So I went back up to Bookshare and entered the title into Advanced search. It was then that I found two copies of the book, the severely truncated one I had gotten originally, and the full edition, 545Kb in size for the brf version, that was added on the same date it was officially published, February 14. I don't know how many other instances of this kind of thing there might be, but I thought I should mention it here. Don't stop when you find the first occurrence of a book title you're looking for, and if there is more than one instance, get the one with the most recent date of addition. Evan __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6900 (20120220) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. <http://www.eset.com>http://www.eset.com------------------------------ End of bksvol-discuss Digest V9 #51 *********************************** To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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